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Old 19-07-2018, 12:34   #1
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Anyone know about this Polish boat?

Seems very interesting to me, maybe good build quality, but no clue how seaworthy she'd be.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/22-ft-Custom-...r/142870431973

Obviously not much living space below.
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Ask the seller who the architect/designer and builder are.
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Re: Anyone know about this Polish boat?

That is a serious pair of pumps that would put many offshore yachts to shame.

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Old 19-07-2018, 13:02   #4
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Looks like a modified version of Sjogin.
Hove to off Swan Point – and sailing as slow as I can….
To which Gartside drew plans for:
https://store.gartsideboats.com/prod...gin-design-176
Good and interesting coastal sailer.
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I would like to add if it is GRP, lapstrake in fiberglass is difficult to build, so it might be indicative of the building care and quality.
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Ask the seller who the architect/designer and builder are.
They have no idea, seems likely the current owner may not be the person who sailed it.
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I would like to add if it is GRP, lapstrake in fiberglass is difficult to build, so it might be indicative of the building care and quality.
It is, seller says no wood under there.

Yes lots of indications of a quality build to this noob, like the look of her too.

But not a Flicka 20 or Cape Dory fit for offshore eh?
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It looks quite wide for its size, good interior space, carrying capacity and form stability, less roll and more comfort, but probably not too good for righting after capsizing.
It probably wouldn't matter as much as I doubt there are much people taking a 22 footer offshore anyway.
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Well I want to maybe one day, and my 8.5' beam limit means the Cape Dory 28 is too big, but 27 and 25D are on the list

Flicka 20 is just too cramped to live on full time, but very seaworthy!

Nor'sea 27 currently top choice but will mean saving a few more years.

Others include

Westerly Centaur 26
Columbia / Defender 29
Bristol 27, 24
Albin Vega 27
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This seems encouraging:

Piaski, near Krynica Morska on the Baltic https://goo.gl/maps/pe5duKhAeWq
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Well I want to maybe one day, and my 8.5' beam limit means the Cape Dory 28 is too big, but 27 and 25D are on the list

Flicka 20 is just too cramped to live on full time, but very seaworthy!

Nor'sea 27 currently top choice but will mean saving a few more years.

Others include

Westerly Centaur 26
Columbia / Defender 29
Bristol 27, 24
Albin Vega 27
I would suggest Contessa, Marieholm or other Folkboat derivatives.
If you don't mind taking care of wood, there are some build of Eric Jr designed by Atkins available, if you are building there are probably more choices.
There are larger and mire seaworthy boats that aren't much more expensive though.
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I would suggest Contessa, Marieholm or other Folkboat derivatives.
Thanks, and yes, those are already on my longer list.

Headroom and carrying capacity are important, Contessa 26 is I think a bit too small for me and apparently very wet in the cockpit.

> There are larger and more seaworthy boats that aren't much more expensive though

Yes but as I said, I don't want larger, even if free, 8.5' beam is my upper limit.

I just mentioned the others for points of comparison,

really hoping someone knows more about this boat, would be a long trip for me to go look at her, and the current owner apparently knows little.

Anyone wanting to discuss other candidates, or my 'unrealistic' criteria, let's do that here:

Trailerable blue-ocean: exists?
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Search for Atkin Eric Jr at yacht world.

On the other hand, I have commisioned a "minimal" fastnet offshore capable design that is absolutely seaworthy, with most of the benefit of the size and not much negative. I have yet to build it, if you can find someone to build or build it yourself.
Downloadable Sailboat Plans by George Whisstock
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Sounds way above my pay grade.

This $10K starting platform is actually more than I should be investing in my dream at this point.

Unless I see a "miracle bargain".

Fact that it comes already on a trailer is a big plus, otherwise that bit's really my next goal.
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Seems very interesting to me, maybe good build quality, but no clue how seaworthy she'd be.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/22-ft-Custom-...r/142870431973

Obviously not much living space below.

Looks a lot like a converted life boar to me
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