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Old 27-03-2013, 15:24   #1
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Ahoy Carbineer 46 Owners

Any Carbineer owners out there to chat. Interested in experiences.
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Old 26-07-2013, 04:34   #2
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I took the plunge despite no replies to thread - an Ozzie built boat and despite some initial cost to get some of the mechanical bits and pieces back in sound working order - this a hell of a boat and well worth consideration for would-be cruisers.

There were 16 built. Cost to build in 1980 was allegedly close to the $1m and estimated (refer Afloat Magazine article on sistership Ketchup) replacement cost now double that. One of the most stable 46' I've sailed. Former owners cruised for 7 years - no sea sickness - 3 hrs on a modern production boat and .....(well you can imagine).

I'm happy despite the initial spend however lets face it - buy a 30 year old boat and one has to expect to spend some money for safe cruising
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Old 26-07-2013, 06:04   #3
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Re: Ahoy Carbineer 46 owners

an Ozzie built boat ????

Really I thought they were built by Moodys in the UK??

Lovely boats though we looked at one and I was very tempted but the Mrs siad no.
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Old 26-07-2013, 06:14   #4
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They are great boats, perfect for cruising, huge fuel/water tanks and a great raised salon/doghouse.
I look at a few online, but they all seemed too expensive, similar to how the Buzins trade in the resale market.
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Old 30-07-2013, 08:00   #5
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Built 1980 in Melbourne. 16 built in Oz at the Myer Laskey yard. Apparently cost $1m to build back then - sold for $800k. I think they are a bargain sub $200k so long as they have been kept up together.

Not sure where the doghouse ones were built - Sunchaser has a full saloon.

Buizen still fetching more but maybe in another 20 years they will be down with the Carbineers.

Also built in Europe.

Have a look at the article on "Ketchup" in Afloat magazine - available free online - sorry dont have link readily available.
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... Have a look at the article on "Ketchup" in Afloat magazine - available free online - sorry dont have link readily available.
My love affair with Ketchup - a Carberneer 46
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Old 23-07-2015, 05:28   #7
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Re: Ahoy Carbineer 46 Owners

Hi ,
Im heading down to Tassie in a couple of weeks to look at Katrina 3 . I hear Ketchup is in Hobart as well. The pics of Katrina 3 show another Carbineer moored alongside. k3 looks well looked after although the teak decks may need some work. Im hoping the cored decks below the teak are dry. With so many screws holding down the teak water may have got in between the laminates.
After looking at many boats to replace our Moody 54 and traveling as far as Greece I'm hoping this is the one.
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I delivered one from Melbourne to Hobart, very impressed with how they handle at sea. Great motion and they sail very well for a pilothouse ketch.

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Old 25-07-2015, 03:46   #9
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We have just purchased a (1 owner) Carbineer 46, and hoping to have it down in Manley next weekend.


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I contacted my surveyor in Tassie and he had previously looked at this boat Katrina 3. She has a problem with her chain plates . They are deck mounted through a foam cored deck with no structural strengtining. I contacted an other Carbineer owner who has modified these chain plates with L brackets. Do any other Carbineer owners have a similar mod . I would like to see a pic of how its done. My surveyor also found that the riiging is compromised by an 8 mm pin through the deck fitting which is weaker than the wire and other elements of the rigging. Unfortunately the same design fault continued from at least 1985 through to 1990. The deck on this boat has visably deformed upward by 5 mm at rest with the teak deck cracked at this point. Under load it may be much worse. If you have a Carbineer have a look at your inner stays and check .
The phot is under the deck mounted chainplate but there is no plate!
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I contacted my surveyor in Tassie and he had previously looked at this boat Katrina 3. She has a problem with her chain plates . They are deck mounted through a foam cored deck with no structural strengtining. I contacted an other Carbineer owner who has modified these chain plates with L brackets. Do any other Carbineer owners have a similar mod . I would like to see a pic of how its done. My surveyor also found that the riiging is compromised by an 8 mm pin through the deck fitting which is weaker than the wire and other elements of the rigging. Unfortunately the same design fault continued from at least 1985 through to 1990. The deck on this boat has visably deformed upward by 5 mm at rest with the teak deck cracked at this point. Under load it may be much worse. If you have a Carbineer have a look at your inner stays and check .
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Mike, thanks for the info, Jo D'Affaire was built in 1980, is solid hull and deck and passed survey really well taking its age into consideration.



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Old 25-07-2015, 04:24   #14
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Yes you just beat me to that one . Have a look and see how your inner stays are fixed. Most have been modified and i would love to see a pic of how it was done.
The one in Ballina has sold as well aparently.
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Hi Mike, will do, hopefully next week.


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