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Old 29-09-2015, 10:49   #46
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

I'm thinking=..line it with 2 to 3 inches of foam insulation....make a lid...and fill it with beer and ice..;-)
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:07   #47
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

I hate to be a wet blanket but whatever you spend on this project will probably have no impact on the resale price. given that I would limit my effort to things I can do my self with minimal spending on supplies. if degreasers don't seem to be doing much, renting a steam cleaner sounds like a promising idea but first I would try soaking with degreaser over night.
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:24   #48
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

If you are just going to sail in fir weather in fairly protected waters, strapping on an engine to the transom is fine. If you;re going further afield, I would consider creating a well like the older Bristols that allow the engine to be tipped up when sailing. It gets the weight a little more inboard and protects the engine much better especially if you build a "gasket" around it.

RE: smells etc. I would tear out everything associated with the old inboard and close off the shaft hole w/ FG and epoxy-pretty straightforward. You can probably sell some of the stuff like muffler, shaft etc. Amazing amount of space. As others have said, the market for your boat and many others is soft, and will remain so-I believe, so invest what you need for adequate service and save the rest. Cheers.

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A little background, then a couple questions:

I got this boat for 2500 and have since put an outboard motor on. I also bolted the prop shaft in place to keep it from freewheeling.
My original thought was to leave all the wiring, exhaust, ect. in place so that I can advertise as "ready for re-power" when I go to sell.
My new method of thinking is that no one is going to be interested in putting an inboard back into this boat ever again and it would be more appealing on the resale market if I cleaned out, sealed off and re-purposed that area.

1) What is your opinion on the above? I would really like to clean that area, remove all the wiring, the exhaust, close the holes in the transom up so water can't get in, seal the shaft hole off, seacocks, ect...

2) This is my first boat with an engine and there is a foul smell inside the cabin. At first I thought it was the head. I cleaned that out, not the problem...so then I went to the bilge, cleaned that, not the problem.
I am currently thinking the spell is coming from very old diesel inside all the lines that remain, gas tank, diesel soot from what appears to have been an exhaust leak, grease and other gunk built up in the engine compartment.
I want to clean all this out nice and squeaky clean, hopefully getting rid of, or reducing the smell in the process.
Any advice on tackling this job? What's the best way to siphon out the sludge that is likely built up in the tank? How about sealing the hose coming from the tank so no more fumes get in?
What type of cleaner should I use to get rid of the gunk, grease and soot?
Do they make some type of deodorizer to apply to the fiberglass in this area once the gunk is gone?

Thanks!
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Old 29-09-2015, 15:46   #49
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

I was wondering if you could hook a generator / alternator to the shaft would there be enough torque to do any charging while underway?
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Old 29-09-2015, 15:54   #50
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I was wondering if you could hook a generator / alternator to the shaft would there be enough torque to do any charging while underway?
I actually looked into that and even made a thread on here about it back when I first bought the boat.
The answer is yes, it is possible... but it's not very efficient, or reliable and is overly complicated.
One issue is you would likely have to be sailing at over 5Kts for most generators to even begin generating power at all...otherwise it would actually be sucking power out of the battery unless you install some type of system to disconnect it from the battery until it reaches a certain speed.

In the end, it was decided that if I really wanted the extra power, I would get a lot more energy production for my buck and time by just adding more solar with that same money.
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I hate to be a wet blanket but whatever you spend on this project will probably have no impact on the resale price.
I am not looking to increase the value. I was just trying not to DECREASE it, or worse, make it less desirable.
This project shouldn't cost much. I planned on hauling it out anyways sometime early next year, so I can do my own work to seal it off using epoxy I already have at that point.
I've actually tried hiring a diver to pull the prop a while back, but he says it is on there pretty good and recommends I do it on haul out.
In case anyone is curious, here's what I did to lock the drive shaft in place:



I already own the pressure washer and cleaning supplies, so that's all free.
The only real expense should be the haul out, which I am not really counting, because I was going to do that anyways.

What about sealing the holes off where the seacocks leading to the engine are? I'm pretty sure that area of glass is relatively thin when compared to the drive shaft. Is it more practical just to plug it off? What do I use? just a bronze threaded cap?
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Old 30-09-2015, 05:37   #52
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

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I am not looking to increase the value. I was just trying not to DECREASE it, or worse, make it less desirable.
This project shouldn't cost much. I planned on hauling it out anyways sometime early next year, so I can do my own work to seal it off using epoxy I already have at that point.
I've actually tried hiring a diver to pull the prop a while back, but he says it is on there pretty good and recommends I do it on haul out.
In case anyone is curious, here's what I did to lock the drive shaft in place:



I already own the pressure washer and cleaning supplies, so that's all free.
The only real expense should be the haul out, which I am not really counting, because I was going to do that anyways.

What about sealing the holes off where the seacocks leading to the engine are? I'm pretty sure that area of glass is relatively thin when compared to the drive shaft. Is it more practical just to plug it off? What do I use? just a bronze threaded cap?
That is the absolute most anti-monkey love dungeon space ever... Nothing wrong with your shaft lock ...

If you do replace your sea cocks with plugs, it's going to make things harder should you in the heat of the moment one day decide to scuttle... Of course in the long run it's probably wiser to have a system that takes a bit of effort...

(I've noticed that my most recent posting style is completely devoid of any positive team effort or helpful contributions)
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

Having just cleaned the engine bay in my BMW project car I can highly recommend Purple Power over simple Green. Tried them both. What worked really well for me was to take a strong sspray bottle and soak the area. Let it sit for an hour, then use a scrat per. This saved me a lot of papaer towels. From there I hit it with a spray bottle filled with water. I assume a hose would be better. Finally I used the PPower again and hit it with a brush and squirted it with water. Worked great.
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

After pulling the engine on my 40 year old Bristol and all associated equipment, I removed all the built up slug in the bilge. Then sprayed the whole area (bilge and engine compartment) with Dawn Dishwashing Detergent and scrubbed it.

Then rinsed with the water hose.

I repeated this from time to time without the scrubbing and left the bilge and engine area open to dry. The bilge pump removed most of the water and I used my Wet/Dry Vac to get what was left.

This was all that was needed.

It's been this way now since 2011.
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(I've noticed that my most recent posting style is completely devoid of any positive team effort or helpful contributions)
Perhaps it's the Mai Tai's?

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I have secured a 2600 psi motorized power washer from a friend, so instead of experimenting with cleaners, I'm just going to hit it with that from the get-go, because..."why not?" lol...There's something about taking a pressure washer to the inside of that dungeon that seems like it will be strangely satisfying

I will try and get some video on the gopro.

Once I break up the hard stuff with the power washer, I have a gallon of concentrated citrus degreaser that I picked up at home depot. I will use it to get rid of anything that may be left over.
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Re: Advice on what to do with my empty engine bay.

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I am not looking to increase the value. I was just trying not to DECREASE it, or worse, make it less desirable.
This project shouldn't cost much. I planned on hauling it out anyways sometime early next year, so I can do my own work to seal it off using epoxy I already have at that point.
I've actually tried hiring a diver to pull the prop a while back, but he says it is on there pretty good and recommends I do it on haul out.
In case anyone is curious, here's what I did to lock the drive shaft in place:



I already own the pressure washer and cleaning supplies, so that's all free.
The only real expense should be the haul out, which I am not really counting, because I was going to do that anyways.

What about sealing the holes off where the seacocks leading to the engine are? I'm pretty sure that area of glass is relatively thin when compared to the drive shaft. Is it more practical just to plug it off? What do I use? just a bronze threaded cap?
Capping them off with bronze caps is fine. I removed my head and capped mine off for removal at some later haulout.
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Capping them off with bronze caps is fine. I removed my head and capped mine off for removal at some later haulout.
Oops, forgot an important thing, sometimes if thru-hulls get capped off they may be covered and/or forgotten. Be sure nothing heavy like a battery is free to fall against the capped thru-hull and break it!
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Oops, forgot an important thing, sometimes if thru-hulls get capped off they may be covered and/or forgotten. Be sure nothing heavy like a battery is free to fall against the capped thru-hull and break it!
Boy that could make for a rude awaking.
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A little background, then a couple questions:

I got this boat for 2500 and have since put an outboard motor on. I also bolted the prop shaft in place to keep it from freewheeling.
My original thought was to leave all the wiring, exhaust, ect. in place so that I can advertise as "ready for re-power" when I go to sell.
My new method of thinking is that no one is going to be interested in putting an inboard back into this boat ever again and it would be more appealing on the resale market if I cleaned out, sealed off and re-purposed that area.

1) What is your opinion on the above? I would really like to clean that area, remove all the wiring, the exhaust, close the holes in the transom up so water can't get in, seal the shaft hole off, seacocks, ect...

2) This is my first boat with an engine and there is a foul smell inside the cabin. At first I thought it was the head. I cleaned that out, not the problem...so then I went to the bilge, cleaned that, not the problem.
I am currently thinking the spell is coming from very old diesel inside all the lines that remain, gas tank, diesel soot from what appears to have been an exhaust leak, grease and other gunk built up in the engine compartment.
I want to clean all this out nice and squeaky clean, hopefully getting rid of, or reducing the smell in the process.
Any advice on tackling this job? What's the best way to siphon out the sludge that is likely built up in the tank? How about sealing the hose coming from the tank so no more fumes get in?
What type of cleaner should I use to get rid of the gunk, grease and soot?
Do they make some type of deodorizer to apply to the fiberglass in this area once the gunk is gone?

Thanks!
A friend of mine had a 30ft boat without an inboard. He cleaned it up, painted it and turned it into a really cool double bunk.
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A friend of mine had a 30ft boat without an inboard. He cleaned it up, painted it and turned it into a really cool double bunk.
Probably ok in the frozen north, but here in the tropics it would be a sauna.
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