Originally Posted by Dockhead
Big boats from Oyster
and Swan I've been on were beautifully laid out!
Both makes have very long production, and I can only guess we sailed completely different designs!
To me, old Oysters (pre-posh age) are OK - strong and sound and sensibly laid out. Then there was that period when Oyster
grew rapidly and ... well, well, ... possibly the most cluttered sidedecks, the darkest galleys and the deck
salons with no all round visibility (unless you stand 7' tall). Then came the post (2002?) era when they split the cockpits - twin wheels, center catwalk, etc. so MUCH better than so many earlier boats. BUT I know of issues that would make me never buy one, even if I could afford one.
Now, Swans. I love their old S&S models much as they are not the best sailing boats in the world (they may be the prettiest though). I like their clean decks, the simple hardware
, the small cockpit
. Newer, bigger Swans are nearly always boats laid out for large crews. Yes, the separate cockpits are cool - but did you notice that some of them lack a separate crew companionway
? No fun going to that cockpit
in rough weather
I think my cheap
criticism applies equally to many companies that went into building bigger&bigger boats somewhere in the 80'ies - the good news is some of them survived long enough to build more boats and avoid some of the horrible solutions offered in their big boom era.