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09-07-2013, 19:28
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond
The list lost all credibility when it didn't have CT54s at the top
No Swan? Sparkman and Stevens? Not even sure if there was a Hinkley...
Lairs the lot of them
Vic
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I guess you lost all credibility when you missed that there IS a Sparkman and Stevens design on the list.
Honestly, did nobody even read the list before they criticized it?
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09-07-2013, 20:01
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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I guess you lost all credibility when you missed that there IS a Sparkman and Stevens design on the list.
Honestly, did nobody even read the list before they criticized it?
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I did, the list is a joke. If you're talking about domestic coastal cruising (ie: living in a marina 50 weeks a year) then it's probably dead on accurate. And to be honest that's CW's target audience and there's nothing wrong with that.
But no matter how much manufacturers, owners, and magazines try to say otherwise there really is such a thing as a "blue water boat" and similar to porn it's hard to define but you know it when you see it.
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09-07-2013, 20:05
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
There was a Swan and there was a Hinckley.
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09-07-2013, 20:10
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3
I guess you lost all credibility when you missed that there IS a Sparkman and Stevens design on the list.
Honestly, did nobody even read the list before they criticized it?
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ROFL... I don't need credibility, I'm not selling anything, so I can enjoy the luxury of being incredible.
But if you want to have a go at me, Swan and Hinkley are both represented too, and there are more than one Sparkman and Stevens designs...
Want to share my incredible cap
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09-07-2013, 20:14
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by SkiprJohn
There was a Swan and there was a Hinckley.
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You beat me to it
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09-07-2013, 20:33
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by VirtualVagabond
ROFL... I don't need credibility, I'm not selling anything, so I can enjoy the luxury of being incredible.
But if you want to have a go at me, Swan and Hinkley are both represented too, and there are more than one Sparkman and Stevens designs...
Want to share my incredible cap
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You're right. You stand corrected.
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09-07-2013, 20:48
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
Ewan Cambells "sailboat hall of fame" is a better list,wonder why?
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09-07-2013, 20:51
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
It was fun to read the list. Lots of boats I recognized and at one time or another I was in love with.
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10-07-2013, 05:28
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by rebel heart
I did, the list is a joke. If you're talking about domestic coastal cruising (ie: living in a marina 50 weeks a year) then it's probably dead on accurate. And to be honest that's CW's target audience and there's nothing wrong with that.
But no matter how much manufacturers, owners, and magazines try to say otherwise there really is such a thing as a "blue water boat" and similar to porn it's hard to define but you know it when you see it.
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Jokes?
Crealock 37? Tartan 37? Tayana 37? Passport 40? Westsail 32? Bristol 40? Hinckley Bermuda 40? Halberg Rassy 42? Hylas 49? Morris 36? Peterson 44? Swan 44? Valiant 40?
The Dashews sailed around the world in a Columbia 50, and that was on the list. Same with Tania Abei and her Contessa which made the list.
Those were some of the boats I remember off the top of my head. They aren't "blue water" boats (god, I hate that term)? You must have a very rigid acceptance of a "blue water" boat.
Oh, right, Hans Christian 36 was not on the list...
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10-07-2013, 06:42
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You know the writers said a few months ago let's do this as a article, the people who get our magazine are going to enjoy seeing all the boats some old some new and not care about the list, but boy will we piss off all those fourm people. Boy are they laughing now...
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10-07-2013, 06:54
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
This is from a different thread, but I think it works here as well.
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Re: How long from FLA to MD?
Used boats are like the children of Lake Woebegone: They are all, each and every one of them, way above average.
And then again, doesn't every boat need something fixed, all the time?
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10-07-2013, 07:17
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
No Baltics? What a load of dingo's kidneys.
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10-07-2013, 07:41
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
Its an American biased list which is OK as thats where 90% of their readers are from and its not a bad list...some nice boats. Its not a worldly sailboat list but then again most American readers don't want to read about boats they have never seen or read about.
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10-07-2013, 08:01
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
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Originally Posted by robert sailor
Its an American biased list which is OK as thats where 90% of their readers are from and its not a bad list...some nice boats. Its not a worldly sailboat list but then again most American readers don't want to read about boats they have never seen or read about.
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I think you're right, but some of the boats aren't made in America.
What boats are missing in your opinion?
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10-07-2013, 08:22
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Re: 40 Best Sailboats
This list is different from the list I would make, and therefore, has no validity.
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