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24-05-2018, 11:05
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Montreal/Sarasota
Boat: Shark 24 / Compac23
Posts: 18
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37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
Currently sailing a Compac23 but want to move up to a cruising boat. My ideal boat would be a five year old Pacific Seacraft 37, but with tiller.
What is out there that comes close?
Be grateful for any input.
Thanks.
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27-05-2018, 19:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Coming to a Marina Near You
Boat: Hallberg-Rassy 49
Posts: 303
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
I met a fella a few years ago with either a PSC34 or 37 with a tiller. Why not just buy what you want.
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28-05-2018, 04:55
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Montreal/Sarasota
Boat: Shark 24 / Compac23
Posts: 18
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
Ah. There is the rub. I can't find what I want.
My target is a 35-37 footer with a tiller. The ones that I know of that fit that bill are quite old and require a lot of maintenance (the Cape George cutter comes to mind). I use a ten year old PSC 37 as a boat to compare others to as it has all that I would like...except a tiller.
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28-05-2018, 05:19
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
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Originally Posted by Favoured Tack
Currently sailing a Compac23 but want to move up to a cruising boat. My ideal boat would be a five year old Pacific Seacraft 37, but with tiller.
What is out there that comes close?
Be grateful for any input.
Thanks.
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It is rare to find cruising boats in the USA that are 37 feet long and have a Tiller, instead of a wheel.
So, if you have a strong preference for a Tiller, you should consider a "Wheel to Tiller Conversion." It may be possible on some boats, but difficult on some boats.
I like a Tiller. So I have considered this for a future boat.
Here is a link to previous discussions about this topic in CF.
https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=011403...2133j1208291j6
Hope that helps.
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28-05-2018, 05:22
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Montreal/Sarasota
Boat: Shark 24 / Compac23
Posts: 18
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
The Rafiki is LOVELY looking boat. But realistically beyond my maintenance skill set.
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28-05-2018, 06:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Norfolk
Boat: Sea Sprite 34
Posts: 443
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
Ingrid 38
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28-05-2018, 06:23
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,625
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
You can convert most wheel boats to tiller, particularly if the rudder post comes up to the cockpit floor/seat with an access panel for the emergency tiller. It's not terribly complicated.
- Remove the pedestal, quadrant, etc., patch the deck.
- Buy a tiller, tiller head, and deck seal, and suitable shifter/throttle.
- Extend the post with a sleeve and tube to the required height
- Relocate the shifter throttle and install, put the rest together
- Go sailing
I know quite a few people who've done this. If you're lucky selling the wheel, pedestal, and binnacle covers the cost of the conversion.
So instead of looking for boats with a tiller, look for boats that can be easily converted to tiller. Your choices will open up dramatically. That said, you're going to want to look for boats that balance well. A wheel often makes a boat's weather helm less apparent which will become more of an issue when you switch to tiller.
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28-05-2018, 06:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Good question
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 14,131
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
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Originally Posted by Favoured Tack
The Rafiki is LOVELY looking boat. But realistically beyond my maintenance skill set.
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You know you best, but I think you’re going to find that any cruising boat will require significant maintenance skills. It’s just like a house; maintenance will be required no matter what the age.
Age (of a boat) is only loosely correlated to maintenance. Design, construction, location, and how they are used will be a bigger factors. If you start with a well-maintained older boat you won’t necessarily end up with more maintenance issues compared to a newer one. It’s all very specific.
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28-05-2018, 06:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Leopard 39
Posts: 860
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
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Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
You know you best, but I think you’re going to find that any cruising boat will require significant maintenance skills. It’s just like a house; maintenance will be required no matter what the age.
Age (of a boat) is only loosely correlated to maintenance. Design, construction, location, and how they are used will be a bigger factors. If you start with a well-maintained older boat you won’t necessarily end up with more maintenance issues compared to a newer one. It’s all very specific.
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When you own a boat, you either have the means to pay for its maintenance and repair, or you go the better route and learn fascinating skills and technologies to do the jobs yourself. I do most of my own work; this way, when something goes wrong with a repair, the idiot who did it is always close at hand.
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28-05-2018, 07:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Mexico
Boat: Passport 40
Posts: 344
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
Rustler 36
https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
You can even buy it new! It has been almost the same boat since the early 80s. So you can pick and choose age. It also came with a wheel, so you will have to look around. Beauitful boat.
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28-05-2018, 08:00
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: PNW
Boat: J/42
Posts: 938
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
There is a Cal40 with tiller on Seattle CL. The price is so low, I expect that it needs quite a lot of TLC...
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28-05-2018, 08:59
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 923
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
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Originally Posted by Favoured Tack
Ah. There is the rub. I can't find what I want.
My target is a 35-37 footer with a tiller. The ones that I know of that fit that bill are quite old and require a lot of maintenance (the Cape George cutter comes to mind). I use a ten year old PSC 37 as a boat to compare others to as it has all that I would like...except a tiller.
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From what I have read the Pacific Seacraft 37 and before that the Cruising Consultants built Crealock 37 were designed to be tiller steered.
They do come up from time to time.
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28-05-2018, 12:01
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,625
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Re: 37 Foot Cutter With Tiller
A few Valiants were sold with tillers. Talk about an easy conversion. Dead simple and suddenly the cockpit is huge. I almost went that route during my deck refit but had too much else to do.
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