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23-06-2009, 04:44
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Like others have said, 200 miles a day is gonna take a pot full of money and a heap of waterline. We we are comfortable day sailing our boat ~ 10 knots but for distance 175 miles is a nice average.
Here is a good example of speed and waterline. Quickest mono (Swan 82) was 7 days 8 hours or 15.2 knots or 365 miles per day. Quickest multi (Freydis 46) was 10 days 4 hours or 11 knots or 263 miles per day.
http://www.worldcruising.com/content...20Division.pdf
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23-06-2009, 05:34
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My Tayana 55, water line length 48 ft will do it but short handed we keep her down in the 7 to7.5 rknot range...it is hell to mess with a 1100 sq ft jib in a 40 knot squall.
I've got 10 yrs to go round the world so fast is not part of the equation.
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08-07-2009, 13:03
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#48
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CF Adviser
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speaking of 200-nm days...
...Alfa Romeo, a Reichel Pugh 100 from NZ, just logged a 420 nm day yesterday in the Transpac. That's after logging 399 nm the prior day.
2009 Transpac Race Tracking :: IonEarth Race Tracking
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08-07-2009, 13:17
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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I crewed on a Daschew designed Sundeer with a family across the Indian Ocean and for the leg between Cocos Keeling and Rodrigues we averaged almost 200 miles a day (1400 miles in about 7.5 days) -- I believe it was a 60ft....almost all on the water -- FAST boat, first time on a mono seeing cruising speeds over 10 kts, I actually took pictures of the SOG to show my dad since I figured he'd never believe it
That boat HAULED ASS -- it is possible, just expensive
it was this boat actually http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1997.../United-States
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08-07-2009, 13:19
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#50
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Location: Princeton, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianontheroad
That boat HAULED ASS -- it is possible, just expensive
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Like I said in the third post: Just call the Dashews!
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08-07-2009, 13:26
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Easton, CT
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Ha Ha Ha
We did 200 nm in 8 hours. On a Little Harbor too! Only, it was a Whisperjet!!! Picked up a mooring at 2 PM, Matinicus ME.
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08-07-2009, 13:27
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I sailed in the 2001 Caribbean 1500 on a friend's 36' sloop. The Dashews' Beowulf was across the dock from us in Hampton as we all got ready for the rally. They made the approximately 1,400 nm passage in about 5-1/2 days, if memory serves me. That would work out to about 250 nm per day. That's what a 76' LWL and a 16.4' beam will do for you!
Took us 11-1/2 days!
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08-07-2009, 13:28
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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yea I was fired up for our first 200 nm day, then came the second...was bummed out about the 196s I think our high day was in the high 200 teens, 218 maybe?
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08-07-2009, 13:57
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Sittin' out watch on a run that nets me 50 miles a day, I wonder... What's the hurry?
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08-07-2009, 13:59
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Location: At sea
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oops, just got a bite...wonder now... What's gonna be for supper.
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08-07-2009, 15:17
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
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Last time I hit 200 miles per day was on a west bound Trans Atlantic trade wind run on a 65 foot Swan 651 (racing version) with 6 crew.
We did 205, 210, 215 every day. But note theres no 240's or 250's etc. So I dont think a cruising couple could do it on normal size boats for more than a day or so.
As someone mentioned previously maybe its better to just relax and slow down a bit. We have been slowing down... now not even getting 150 miles per day, but hanging about 135 miles per day - usually not even using the mainsail downwind as we havent had a spinnaker pole.
Going slow does a few good things:
1) reduces breakages
2) More likely to have hatches open
3) More incentive to cook high level food like bread and cakes
4) Feel like I can have a beer after my watch
5) Don't have to sleep with lifeline on waiting to be called up.
6) Engine charging without the Yanmar on a 30 degree heal.
There must be other things that help the trade off
Mark
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08-07-2009, 15:27
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My gut says that anyone who has any business sailing 200 miles days...
Already has a general idea of what it takes.
Anyone who doesn't understand the commitment needs to cruise coastal for a while. I've sailed at 20 knots in a 27' boat and my nerves could only take the helm for about 20 minutes. Intense.
I cruise MUCH slower, by choice.
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09-07-2009, 06:58
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Eternal Member
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20 knots? How frikking big was the wave it was sitting on? Are you sure it wasn't falling? .....lololol....... i2f
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09-07-2009, 07:10
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#59
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Sabre 28-2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
IMHO, there are NO CRUISERS that should be expected to average 200nm/day.
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Ditto. Mileage may vary (literally), but you shouldn't expect to "average" anything more than about half your hull speed. If you want 200 nm days consistently, that means you're going to need to average 8.3 knots in a displacement boat.
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09-07-2009, 08:05
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Just to be clear are you guys talking about. @00nm thru the water or the standard 200nm made good on a noon to noon run. It is a big difference. We came close to a 200nm in the Newport to Cabo Race in the mid 1980's on a Farr 40. I remember driving the boat really hard all thru the night occasinally we would see a mast head light around us but we couldn't tell who it was. The sea conditions were 35 to 40 knots off the stbd qtr. We had a full main and a 1.5 ounce chaute up. No crashes all night. In the morning the owner took over trimming the chute. We had been sailing with the pole forward (so that the chute was behind the main) and choked down tight. The owner brought the pole back and let the chute breath and that is when we got the death rolls. Exploded that chute. We looked around and it was like the broaching worlds. Boats would be sailing along and then all of a sudden they were on their earsboom higher than the mast and spin shrimping. I had the 1.5 ounce chute below repairing it and told the owner that we should pole out the #3 jib tillafter breakfast. We did that for awhile and then he decided to put up the plastic reaching chute. It lasted all of 5 minutes. From there we got the #3 back up as I repaiored the 1.5 oz. A little later I took the binocs and glassed the fleet. Our little Farr 40 was in some big company All the boats around us were 45 footers. WE didn't get the 200 mile day in the tecnical department (i.e noon to noon run but we did get a 24 hour run of 200 nm made good. It was a hell uva a ride on a fully crewed racing boat. Close to straight down the rhumb line.
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