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Old 10-01-2019, 23:27   #1
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1983 Moody Grenadier

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Im looking at a Moody 1983, but worried about the fiberglass of a boat this old, many years in the water. any thoughts or things i should be careful with.


All advice is appreciated as i am a novice.
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Re: 1983 Moody Grenadier

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Good day,
Im looking at a Moody 1983, but worried about the fiberglass of a boat this old, many years in the water. any thoughts or things i should be careful with.


All advice is appreciated as i am a novice.

You need a good surveyor to thoroughly check the hull and everything else -- just like buying any boat.


But if the surveyor approves the hull, there's nothing to worry about. These boats are exceptionally well built and the hulls should last basically forever. I don't think I've ever heard of a Moody with osmosis. But you need to get a good surveyor on the job.


A much bigger concern, if you are a novice, is the overall condition of the boat, and amortization of the systems and components. Any boat this old can easily be worth less than zero because of the systems and components which are reaching the end of their useful lives. I would probably not touch any boat of this age which is a "project" or in need of serious renovation, even if it's free. On the other hand, if the previous owner loved her and kept the systems updated, then you can get a bargain, even if the boat is expensive. Very often the most expensive boats of a given type and in the best condition, are the best values, because the cost of renovation is almost never fully reflected in the sales price.



Main things to look for -- standing rigging has been replaced in the last 10 years, sails have been replaced in the last 5 years, and with good ones, main engine in good condition and less than say 3000 hours and certainly less than 4000 hours, electronics not more than one generation off current, interior in good condition, and very important -- teak decks, if the boat has them, have been replaced and have at least 50% life left in them. If any one (or anyway two) of these things have been left to go to seed, then it's a good sign that many other smaller things are also in need of replacement or renovation, and these things can quickly add up to more than the boat is worth.



Buying an older used boat -- you want one which was irrationally loved by the previous owner, who spent money on her every single year and did not defer any maintenance or upgrades.



Another really important thing is to check with a hose for any leaks. If there is any kind of leaking into the interior of the boat, then it is likely that you have an irredeemable mould problem, on top of a leak which was too hard for the PO to find. But in any case -- a good surveyor is your friend here, and don't try to save money on that.





The old Laurent Giles designed Moodys are much beloved and are pretty expensive when in decent condition, so can be worth keeping in good condition. But you will want to start out with the boat in good condition.
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Re: 1983 Moody Grenadier

Just for interest sake: Is it the 39.17 Ft “119", or the 44 Ft “134"?
Neither model were built in any quantity, so there may be a dearth of specific info’.
Dockhead's general advice is on the money.

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/grenadier-119-moody

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/grenadier-134-moody
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Goo day, its the 134
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