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Old 10-05-2016, 09:02   #1
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1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

Well, it's been decided! We are going for a 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch that's been under refit since 2003 and has TONS of upgrades! She's now under contract pending survey and sea trials.


Unfortunately, the owners have lost their jobs and therefore their dreams of sailing into retirement and been forced to offload Lady Catherine II for a song at $15k. My hearts out to ya, guys!


Everything is on track and the USCG (licensed) survey and sea trials should begin Thursday this week. If everything is kosher, we'll close soon after. We are still deciding whether to have her shipped, or sail her from Virginia to Texas in 2 hops of 1 week each. Yup, that's right, we got jobs and vacation is hard to get this time of year. Unfortunately, she won't go via the ICW Okeechobee passage as her mast is too tall to clear the 49' railroad bridge and may not clear the next lowest at 54'.

So around the long way we go!

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“Lady Catherine II” was purchased by her current owners in 2001 and they have made significant upgrades to her since. This 40’ Morgan Ketch is a one of a kind with many custom details on the interior and exterior. She is equipped with a 2005 Beta Marine 50HP diesel engine with only 183 hours and a 2009 Vetus bow thruster that makes docking a breeze.


Dimensions
LOA: 40 ft LWL: 30 ft Beam: 11 ft 2 in
Min. Draft: 4 ft 2 in

Engines
Engine Make: Beta Marine Engine Model: BV 2203
Primary Engines: Inboard
Engine Year: 2005 Hours: 183 Power: 50 hp

Tankage
Fresh Water Tanks Capacity: 50 gal Fresh Water Tanks Material: Other

Engines
• IB 2005 50hp Beta Marine diesel engine model BV 2203

Deck Equipment
Companionway hatch, doors, fwd hatch, Dorado boxes all Mahogany, 2004
• All ports replaced w/ S.S. 2004
• S.S. shaft log 2005
• Dripless bearing 2005
• 20" 3 blade prop 2005
Anchor #1 22lb Bruce w/ 40' chain & 150' rode, 2004
Anchor #2 16.5 Bruce w/ 150' rode, 2004
• Bow pulpit custom S.S. & S.S. aft seats, 2005
Lewmar windlass, 2004
• S.S. turnbuckles, 2003
• Tri masthead light 2003
• S.S. thru hull fittings, 2005
self tailing winches installed in 2005

Accommodations
• Stateroom 1 v-berth
• Stateroom 2 double
• Dinette berth sleeps 2
• V-berth sleeps 2
• Replumbed 2004
• Enclosed head
• Bladder tank 2012
Head 2004
• Mahogany saloon table 2004
• Refinished floors 2004
• Custom cushion covers 2009
• A shower nozzle is connected to the faucet in the back head the drain is there, and a new
hot water heater installed 2005. A new heat element installed and flushed tank last fall
before haul out.

Galley
• 2006 Norcold refrigerator/freezer
• 2009 Alcohol/electric 2 burner stove
• Pressure water system

Mechanical Equipment
• 2009 Vetus bow thruster with dedicated battery
• 2005 Marine Comfort air cond., 16,000 BTU's
• Reverse cycle
• 2014 bilge pump with float foot
• 48" S.S. & teak wheel steering 2006
• 2005 transmission
• 2012 Hi pressure water pump, Aqua Jet
• 2012 Fresh water connection w/ valve

Electrical System
• 2014 Series 30 starter battery
• 2003 Parallel switch
• Auto battery charger
• 2006 inverter Xantrex ProWatt, 1750 watts
• DC charging system/ 3 bank battery charger True Charge 20, 2003

Electronics
Autopilot
• 2003 Raymarine ST60 depth sounder
• 2004 JRC chartplotter at helm
• 2004 Navman at nav. station
• 2006 Marine base ICOM IC-M502 VHF radio w/ external mic
• 2005 handheld VHF radio
• 2004 Navman wind instrument
• 2006 Clarion CM05 AM/FM radio w/ CD player
• 2006 speakers inside & cockpit
• 2006 22" TV/DVD in v-berth
• 2009 32" in salon

Sails & Rigging
• Equipped as cruiser
Furling headsail 2003
• Custom headsail 135, 2003
• Custom loose footed main sail & mizzen sail, 2003
• Sail covers, 2003
• Custom traveler, Gerhauler, 2005
• Custom storm main sail, 2006


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Old 10-05-2016, 09:06   #2
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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

One thing that REALLY bothers me is that with the THOUSANDS of these boats out there, there are NO owners groups or support sites at all! Because she is nOT an OI, no information is to be found.

I have written to Charley Morgan's site to see if I can get any info on the Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch tri-cabin layout.


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Old 10-05-2016, 10:34   #3
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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

That looks like one helluva deal, congrats


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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

forget owners groups, don't worry about that....Fish, your vessel has obviously had a lot of time , money , love and attention, you got a good boat at a great price..
looks excellent, you've got a good vessel...congratulations
you can learn most about it by crawling around every nook and cranny and reading...then read some more....then crawl around some more and sail her...
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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

Thanks guys!

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Yeah, I know, but I'm a stickler for having all the available data I can get on anything I get my hands on. A knowledge junky, as it were. Hell, I normally research and study a particular model for a month before I even think of pulling the trigger and then I compare it to everything else comparable for 2 more!

The best drawings I have are from a scanned brochure and there's very little on Saildata for this model; i.e. I didn't want to climb the mast with a 100' measuring tape! LOL! Our Bristol 34 and Catalina 22 had boo-coo data available, but it was really surprising, knowing the quantity of these boats out there, that there is nothing on Morgans.

I'd really like to know how many of these hulls were built. Doesn't seem like many because I've only seen one other 40' Cruising Ketch and it was the galley aft version. These puppies just aren't out there.



Oh well!


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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

Pretty boat.

What is a USCG licensed survey?

I didn't know that USCG licensed surveyors.

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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

Wow what a deal on a beautiful, great ol' boat! You can check in at that Plastic Classics group, and the Plastic Classic thread for like-minded folks! There may be someone there who could direct you to more info.
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Fish, yes I completely understand your voracious appetite for details...I am the same way..
only a guess....perhaps 50 of your 40' hulls made?...you've been on the Morgan site, so not enough there I guess...I have a sailing friend who owned one years ago.... I can ask him about your 40...should see him in a week or 2...
he has a CSY 44 now,... unfortunately as with many old boats, they just sit and rot and fade away... Best Luck, fair winds...
if you'd like private messge me for some recommendations I could give you....I totally refit a '71 Morgan 35 back in the day....same construction methods as yours...
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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

Thanks guys!

Sailpower: The guys an ACMS certified surveyor and USCG Masters license holder. He does everything from commercial sizes down to the little stuff. He'll do the stem to stern survey on the hard then have her put in for full sea trial. The USCG doesn't license "surveyors". A misrepresentation in my wording. Sorry.

Don C L: Thanks Don, I'm giving that a look-see! Ha! Shoulda' known! There you be! and JTHAW... Excellent!

JTHAW: Thanks! I appreciate any help I can get. The water tanks are of particular issue on this one. The original 200G tank was "replaced-replumbed" with a 50G bladder. I know that original tankage on the older Morgans was placed before the deck liner was placed which made them near impossible to get out for repair / replacement / cleaning without cutting structural ribbing. That was the case with the monel tank on the Bristol which was just under the cabin sole and over the bilge behind the mast step. Had to waste space under the v-berth for an additional tank. I'm trying to see what it will take to replace the original capacity or rehab the original tank (if still in place). I like to do the legwork with drawings and such prior to actually "dredging around" in the bilge and spaces.

You know how it is! Can't wait for the new toy to arrive before starting improvements!

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Today is the day! Survey being done today on our new baby and man, I cannot wait for the results! Really nervous but still high hopes no critical "deal-breakers" will be found!

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She looks great! What an incredible deal!
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Re: 1970 Morgan 40 Cruising Ketch

IF she really looks like the pix, and s he passes the survey, you should take the POs out to dinner and promise them a few sails when she's launched... that is an incredible deal! Lucky you... sad them.

And while it is always nice to have drawings, etc for your boat, on one this old and with that many changes, your eyeballs and tape measure are a much better source of critical information. This is especially true on boats with small production runs that extend over longish periods of time... so don't worry about that aspect so much.

But especially, DO climb the mast with a tape measure! Knowing the true clearance of all the bits on the masthead is essential, especially in way of the ICW. Published numbers for that dimension are notoriously inaccurate, and inches matter!

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OK, I'll admit it. I'm jealous. Even if the engine is totally blown, I'm jealous. Well... yeah, I guess I'd still be jealous. But seriously hope all works out in the survey!
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OK, I'll admit it. I'm jealous. Even if the engine is totally blown, I'm jealous. Well... yeah, I guess I'd still be jealous. But seriously hope all works out in the survey!
With only 183 hours use, that engine is hardly broken in...

I'd be more concerned about ground tackle (too small) and sails (fairly old, depends on how much usage and sun exposure).

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