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Old 24-08-2015, 23:12   #1
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16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

Greetings All,

We are maybe 2 years before we're ready to embark upon our adventures but that hasn't stopped me looking at lots and lots of boat porn. I keep coming back to this boat and wondered if you generous people would give me the benefit of your experience.

Used Millkraft Offshore Sailing Sloop for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub

1. GRP over cedar - West System. Is it as good as it's cracked up to be - any views ?
2. Fuel tankage at 380 litres seems a little on the light side for a long distance cruising boat ?
3. 2.7m draught a bit impractical for the Caribbean ? (as that would be a long term cruising goal for us)
4. 2x130W solar panels and the Air Breeze doesn't seem a lot to maintain the battery bank to run the autopilot ?


Overall though, I feel that I'm just nit picking and this represents a fine long distance cruising vessel and, assuming the pictures are recent, a good deal to boot. What practical day to day aspects am I missing ?

I've shown lots of boat listings to my partner over the last 4 months with varying levels of interest and we were having a lovely restaurant dinner last Friday when out of the blue she said "That boat you like, why don't we buy it ?"

TIA
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Old 27-08-2015, 10:51   #2
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Re: 16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

The interest in West system built boats is aimed more at the DIY'er. They are not very popular as 2nd hand boats.

Been for sale for quite a while too...

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Old 27-08-2015, 14:58   #3
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Re: 16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

Sounds like it's cold molded construction. Thin veneers of usually a soft wood saturated in epoxy and laid up over a male mould. One of the lightest and strongest methods for construction. Since the wood is encapsulated in fiberglass and essentially hand formed plywood, it's a stable material that possesses tremendous strength. Since the wood is encapsulated in epoxy resin, it is very rot resistant. Usually the exterior is sheathed in epoxy saturated cloth to give a very hard protective service. A favorite for construction of one off boats. The method of construction seems to be quite durable. There's a Farr designed boat called 'Sweet Okole' built in the early '80s now sailing out of SF. It's been heavily campaigned, and I mean HEAVILY, racing almost every weekend on the Bay and a bunch of distance races including this years TransPac since it was built. Also survived getting T boned by another boat in a race. Even after all these years it's still a competitive racer.

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Old 27-08-2015, 16:46   #4
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Re: 16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

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Greetings All,

We are maybe 2 years before we're ready to embark upon our adventures but that hasn't stopped me looking at lots and lots of boat porn. I keep coming back to this boat and wondered if you generous people would give me the benefit of your experience.

Used Millkraft Offshore Sailing Sloop for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub

1. GRP over cedar - West System. Is it as good as it's cracked up to be - any views ?
2. Fuel tankage at 380 litres seems a little on the light side for a long distance cruising boat ?
3. 2.7m draught a bit impractical for the Caribbean ? (as that would be a long term cruising goal for us)
4. 2x130W solar panels and the Air Breeze doesn't seem a lot to maintain the battery bank to run the autopilot ?


Overall though, I feel that I'm just nit picking and this represents a fine long distance cruising vessel and, assuming the pictures are recent, a good deal to boot. What practical day to day aspects am I missing ?

I've shown lots of boat listings to my partner over the last 4 months with varying levels of interest and we were having a lovely restaurant dinner last Friday when out of the blue she said "That boat you like, why don't we buy it ?"

TIA
Very nice boat from a pro builder with a great reputation.

The 2.7M draft would break it for me(but I'm mostly from the dark side of multies).

No need for concern on the construction medium so long as the boat is well maintained & surveys well by a thorough and competent experienced surveyor, some special attention to keel & bolts plus rudder/steering, timber substrates around chainplates & any deck gear/stanchions etc. might be prudent, nice to see the timber decking only to cockpit & foredeck areas only although it "may" have been removed from elsewhere?
Essentially looks like a million plus vessel at new, now at a fraction of that second hand.... plenty to potentially cost some to fix with secondhand but that's part of the discount. Although a beautiful & well equipped vessel it's not really screaming knockabout cruising with sail handling & winch sizing telling the tail about loads, the draft will be a killer holding back enjoyment of some great spots, I might be prejudiced there as my home port is tricky for the 6' draft of my Carter 33.

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Re: 16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

Sounds like a cold molded Skye 54 ;-)

I like it, very easy to the eye.

What is she like under water?

I would hire the best surveyor money can buy then act accordingly. She is very pretty in and out. If she is semi long keel and skeg then she may also sail like a dream.

Let us know how it develops. Great find!

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Re: 16.4m Millkraft - any experience or opinions please

Thanks all for your valuable contributions. It gives me some additional items to consider and I will get the charts out to see how the 2.7m draft would affect our future plans. That's got me thinking, that one.....

Your time is appreciated. Thanks very much for your input.


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