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Old 12-02-2011, 08:14   #16
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I once averaged 10 knots over the ground for more than eight hours in a 30-footer running before 30 knots or so, but it was current-aided for much of the way. Probably had an average of a 2-knot current helping. Ended up doing more than 80 nautical miles in just over 8 hours. We had the 10-knot speedo pegged a lot of the time, throwing a huge powerboat-like wake to either side.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:05   #17
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One time I was sailing into the Chesapeake Bay, 30kts of wind and was doing over 10 kts , Ok it had to have been 3kts of current , Another boat on an oppsite tack was making way to the tunnel channel . I thought I would be able to beat him to it . Not only was I wrong but he horizioned me (went out of sight) in 15 min . We made 100 miles in 10 hours but still felt abused- if I only had another million in my boat...
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:36   #18
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(((( I built a deeper elliptical rudder with Harken bearings that allowed us to comfortably enjoy dinner while surfing down Lake Ontario at 9 1/2+ knots under total control. This modified rudder eliminated the tendency to wipe out in heavy conditions found on most C&C boats.))))

a quoat from the guys web site...notic he sails a hinterhoeller redwing, however its the same hull as the H28 and they have almost same data sheet on sailboatdata.
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Old 14-02-2011, 17:22   #19
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Off course it can be done, if the waves are large enough and you are running with both waves and breeze behind you. Our boat has a nominal waterline length of 32', which suggests a hull speed of about 7.6 knots. We have hit 18 knots, surfing a 6m wave, with 35 knots of breeze from dead astern. Not exactly a relaxing way to travel, but possible...
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Old 14-02-2011, 17:38   #20
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I have a Garmin GPSMap 182. I saw 7 knots on it, with a full main & 110 genoa, heeled well over (but not with the rail under). The highest speed it recorded was 11.5 knots- that's clearly an error of some sort. I've seen significant speed changes as the boat pitched in someone's wake. Just a word of caution about GPS recorded speeds.
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It is perfectly possible with the current running anything in excess of 4 knots.

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Waterfalls are good.
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It is perfectly possible with the current running anything in excess of 4 knots.

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Yes, but there's no current in my part of the lake
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From the Quote of the sailer in question it seems from the writing he was in some kind of heavy weather and by sailing down Ontario im assuming he was heading south, Therefore i can only speculate he was on the southern end of Ontario and the wind would have enought time to bring up some pretty good waves, so he may have been surfing at 9, not all the time, but on the occasion when he was sliding down a suitable wave.
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I am surprised George put 7and 1/4 feet of overhang on a 28 foot boat. His Shark is 24by20 and Niagara 26 is about 26 and 1/2 by23. That is more my style less overhangs. By the way I know of 3 Redlines all C&C, one is 25 feet the others are around 40. Nothing 28.
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I hit 10+knts on a very loosely rigged Beneteau 39 last year. I know thats a bit bigger than what you have been discussing but I enjoyed every minute of it.

Was surfing the swells on a reach and it felt like I was flying a glider.
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I am surprised George put 7and 1/4 feet of overhang on a 28 foot boat. His Shark is 24by20 and Niagara 26 is about 26 and 1/2 by23. That is more my style less overhangs. By the way I know of 3 Redlines all C&C, one is 25 feet the others are around 40. Nothing 28.

the redwing has lots of overhang, but its a 30ft boat...mine is a Hinterhoeller H-28 and has less overhang...a guy has circumnavigated with an H-28 same as mine, he never mensioned any speed faster then 7.9kn.

however the fellow with the redwing may have recorded his top speed on the niagara river???
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yes, it is possible, but only downwind and going downhill, but as everyone has said the boat can be almost out of control and scary.
I did 20 knots in that situation in a 26 ft Telstar trimaran and it was scary, we had the spinnaker up and were too scared to pull it down, I held on until we got in the protection of an island. And then we pulled all sail down and had a good nip of rum.(we survived)
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ok just added rum to my provisions list.

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Redwing

Yes the redwing is 30 1/4 by 21 3/4. It is a C&C design built by Hintrhoeller Yachts before they became part of C&C so the hull build but not design is related to yours. I have a small sloop, fin keel that is 22 3/4 by 19 which is ok but still would like waterline to be 21. It is a C&C design but built by a different yard. The boat that made C&C's reputation was a 1 ton called Redjacket that won the MORC.
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