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Old 12-04-2018, 16:21   #376
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You have that absolutely dead wrong.

There is no correlation with sunspots and temperatures. A perfect r =1.0.

A negative correlation would indicate that increasing sunspots would be accompanied by lower temperatures and that deceasing sunspot numbers would be accompanied by higher temperatures.

Therefore your assertion is bogus.

Have you ever taken a course in statistics?
you did your homework wrong jack redo it
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"If we do not rapidly stop global warming...blah, blah, blah"


That may not be the writings of a money grubbing/grabbing scientist, but it sure is of one that ain't living in the same reality that the (most) rest of us are
I suspect your "reality" ain't so real.
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you did your homework wrong jack redo it
You did no homework. How would you know?
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2018

BTW - sunspots vs temperatures linear trend 1979-2018



#----------------------------------------------------
#Data from UAH National Space Science and Technology Center
#http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/msu/t2lt/
#----------------------------------------------------
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#File: tltglhmam_6.0
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#Time series (uah) from 1978.92 to 2018.17
#Selected data from 1979
#Selected data up to 2018
#Least squares trend line; slope = 0.012826 per year
1979 -0.216267
2018 0.283947
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 2
#Mean: 0.03384
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#Data processed by Wood for Trees: Home
#Please check original source for first-hand data and information:
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#----------------------------------------------------
#Data from Solar Influences Data Analysis Center (SIDC), Royal Observatory of Belgium
#Sunspot Number | SILSO
#----------------------------------------------------
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#File: SN_m_tot_V2.0.txt
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#Time series (sidc-ssn) from 1749.04 to 2018.21
#Selected data from 1979
#Selected data up to 2018
#Least squares trend line; slope = -2.70305 per year
1979.04 144.567
2018.04 39.1482
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 2
#Mean: 91.8577
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That may not be the writings of a money grubbing/grabbing scientist, but it sure is of one that ain't living in the same reality that the (most) rest of us are
Wow, people like you actually exist?
Ever been to the Arctic? Ever looked into what is happening?
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But I do find the rest of the article interesting and almost mirroring of articles written in the early 20th century as well as the late 1960's to the early 1970's.lets hope the arctic follows the pattern and ice grows to near record levels again in the next few years.
That pattern that you often talk about does not exist in the sense that you talk about. Crossing fingers and hoping that everything will get back to 'normal' in a few years is nothing more than wishful thinking.
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That pattern that you often talk about does not exist in the sense that you talk about. Crossing fingers and hoping that everything will get back to 'normal' in a few years is nothing more than wishful thinking.
while I do admit I have not been to the arctic for close to 30 years . I do know that the cycles do and have existed for as long as there has been ice in the arctic and records have been kept. I do study much more than just the last 30 to 50 years of the earths weather.
You have heard about all the artifacts they are finding as the glaciers have retreated recently. How do you think those items got under all that ice to begin with. Its a long cycle.
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while I do admit I have not been to the arctic for close to 30 years . I do know that the cycles do and have existed for as long as there has been ice in the arctic and records have been kept. I do study much more than just the last 30 to 50 years of the earths weather.
You have heard about all the artifacts they are finding as the glaciers have retreated recently. How do you think those items got under all that ice to begin with. Its a long cycle.
Here is 13,000 years of data - explain the last two centuries



Here is 800,000 years of data - explain the last two centuries



It has been 3 million years since the current CO2 levels have been observed - explain that
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You explain if that last 100 or so years of co2 is correct why is the temperature below the temperature 100k years ago at the epoch of the last interglacial such as where we are now.
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You explain if that last 100 or so years of co2 is correct why is the temperature below the temperature 100k years ago at the epoch of the last interglacial such as where we are now.
You have three tasks to complete before I get back to you.

Meanwhile while checking out a discussion on sunspots on WUWT, I can across this:



It was accompanied by this comment:

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Note that the UAH MSU satellite temperatures used by Chimp above have no correspondence with sunspot numbers.

Note that even a blind hog will find an acorn once in a while, but that doesn’t establish a correlation.
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You explain if that last 100 or so years of co2 is correct why is the temperature below the temperature 100k years ago at the epoch of the last interglacial such as where we are now.
It was in a decline that started increasing. Milankovitch cycles would have us in a cooling phase. Clearly we are warming.

Now you have some tasks to accomplish.
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I suspect your "reality" ain't so real.
I suspect in your reality that humankind's use of fossil fuels and other processes, for example, cement manufacturing are entirely discretionary.
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Wow, people like you actually exist?
Ever been to the Arctic? Ever looked into what is happening?
Yes we exist. We don't know which button to press that "rapidly stops global warming". Please feel free to fill in the blanks.
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I suspect in your reality that humankind's use of fossil fuels and other processes, for example, cement manufacturing are entirely discretionary.
Not yet. Folks are working on it. None of whom would be your folks.
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Not yet. Folks are working on it. None of whom would be your folks.
Be sure to let us all know when they've figured it out then.
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