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Old 06-11-2016, 09:04   #106
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I am not trying to revive the discussion, just saw an an Eagle Quest II story on my Google news feed and decided to check up on Northabout.

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Good article thanks for the post. Thankfully they have moved on to the usual october/early november florida anchoring stuff
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I am not trying to revive the discussion, just saw an an Eagle Quest II story on my Google news feed and decided to check up on Northabout.

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Hong Kong sailor recalls Arctic voyage with global warming plea | South China Morning Post

Successful passages are worth noting.
Last week, I flew to Dublin and drove south to Crossheaven to meet with KD at Cork Royal Yacht Club. I helped him to get the boat ready to repair and up keep since he had to head back to Hong Kong.

I was glad that he did not sail from Greenland to Iceland and Ireland. Nevertheless, the voyage from Nuuk to Westport. Ireland was hell, simply because it was too late in the season - the hardest part of the whole Expedition from Hong Kong to Alaska thru NW passage to Ireland.

It is a great accomplishment !

They will be back to Ireland next May and sail EQII back to Hong Kong through Suez Canal and Gulf of Aden.
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Yeah, more people on a fool's errand. One I plan to undertake myself. This has nothing to do with "global warming" and more to do with people with a sense of adventure. The point?

As for the "increasing temperatures" 40 years, does not a climate make.
Stop panicking, and wake up. We are not going to get much hotter. CO2 is not a major greenhouse gas, as it has doubled, and the temperature has remained about the same. We are recovering from a cold period, and a single major volcanic eruption would drop the global temp a few degrees C and kill millions of people, as it has in the past. What don't you get, cold is bad, warm is not.
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...Previous research has shown that as the planet warms, the lower layers of the atmosphere will expand, making it much harder for the [volcanic] gasses to reach the stratosphere. At lower levels, in the troposphere, the gasses quickly get turned into aerosols and clouds and precipitate back down to earth as rain or snow.

"Volcanic eruptions tend to counteract global warming but as the planet heats up and our atmosphere changes, we've found that fewer eruptions will be able to reflect the sun's radiation," said Thomas Aubry, a PhD student studying climate and volcanoes. "It will be harder for the volcanic gasses to reach high enough into atmosphere to help cool the planet."...
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The North Pole is 36 degrees HOTTER than normal as figures reveal Earth is on track for its warmest year on record | Daily Mail
  • Some areas of the Arctic have reached more than 36 degrees above norm
  • And in some parts of Arctic Russia, anomalies have exceeded 40 degrees
  • As these high temperatures occur, sea ice is struggling to recover
  • October temperatures equaled the third-warmest for the month ever

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Looks like an equal area in the Artic that is 36 degrees below the norm.
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Friend, it is all pure speculation written to sell ad space, and earn grant money. You have to stop believing that .4C over 100 years is going to hurt us when we only have know the global temperatures for the last 30 years, and so far, all the predictions were wrong. Talk to me about it in 100 years. Besides, there is not a single thing we can do to stop the temperature rise aside from killing 6 billion people.
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Some sort of weird -- Arctic sea ice extent actually falling at this time of year? No Way!

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Looks like an equal area in the Artic (sic) that is 36 degrees below the norm.
That would be Siberia, not the Arctic.
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Some sort of weird -- Arctic sea ice extent actually falling at this time of year? No Way!

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Charctic Interactive Sea Ice Graph | Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
Both the Arctic and the Antarctic are more than 4 standard deviations below the 1981-2010 average...but hey...it's just weather...




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Re: Northwest Passage - 2016

Here is a rather comprehensive discussion. Lots of graphic data.

Arctic News: Monthly CO₂ not under 400 ppm in 2016
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Here is a rather comprehensive discussion. Lots of graphic data.

Arctic News: Monthly CO₂ not under 400 ppm in 2016
One of the many interesting graphs from the link hpeer gave. This is the total sea ice, Arctic and Antarctic combined. This year's extent is "off the charts." I'm sure, though, that it really is just a "Chinese hoax."

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This thread just keeps going! I want to especially thank SailOar and Jackdale for keeping it up and look forward to the 2017 version.

We have acquaintances getting in position for the NWP E2W in 2017. While we don't have the ideal boat for pushing through much ice, we continue to evaluate the changes in the Arctic.

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Re: Northwest Passage - 2016

Interesting that we aren't hearing much in the global news about the flooding and evacuations in Miami due to sea water rise.

Oops, its there. I guess I just haven't been paying much attention. I wonder when the State will start crying for Federal funds. There is going to be a mass migration out of South Florida pretty soon, IMHO.

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One of the many interesting graphs from the link hpeer gave. This is the total sea ice, Arctic and Antarctic combined. This year's extent is "off the charts." I'm sure, though, that it really is just a "Chinese hoax."

A rough calculation indicates a 12% decrease from the previous record low??? It looks like the difference is greater than the range of all the previous years.
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