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Old 13-03-2016, 16:44   #16
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Re: Caribbean to TDF routing advice

Earlier is better... all things being equal I am heading south this September...maybe even late August if I can get organised. Early start gives you more time to do the Antarctic/S Georgia thing as it is a very short season for both of them..

Once you get them out of the way you can just go back up to Pto Montt....
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Earlier is better... all things being equal I am heading south this September...maybe even late August if I can get organised. Early start gives you more time to do the Antarctic/S Georgia thing as it is a very short season for both of them.
I'll strive to get to Puerto Montt as soon as possible. If we're through Panama, by the end of June, a couple of months to get to PM sounds about right.


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Once you get them out of the way you can just go back up to Pto Montt....
This is an interesting thought. Instead of sailing towards the Caribbean, head back to Puerto Montt. Assuming I do both Antarctica and South Georgia, what would be your ideal timing and route, back to Puerto Montt? How boisterous a sail is it going back with the winds on the nose?
Since we've sailed Patagonia coming south, I'd be more interested in getting to PM quickly, to set me up for sailing into the Pacific as early as possible (March).

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Re: Caribbean to TDF routing advice

Why the rush...? Spend the summer in the south and head north again in April.

How well insulated is your boat?....that is as much a summer issue as a winter one. Mind you a lot of Ovnis pass through... there always seem to be few in Montt.... dunno how they cope insulation wise.

Summer ( I tend to divide the Patagonian year into only two seasons) can be damp between Penas and Faro Fairway.. in Nov/Dec once we had it rain on every day for 42 days... didn't rain 'all day'.. but did rain at least once every day. Along with the low cloud it can take the gloss off the scenery.

April/May the weather can be a lot more settled with quite a bit of southerly wind as shown in the last two pics.

First two pics November, next two May, of course you can get glorious days in Summer and crap in April/May..however...
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How boisterous a sail is it going back with the winds on the nose?

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In summer against the prevailng northerlies? Quite hard work tacking into short steep seas...
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Why the rush...? Spend the summer in the south and head north again in April.
I think we'll make up our minds when we're down there. For now we're pretty much decided to head down the west coast, via Easter Island and then we'll see when we get down to TdF what we feel like and make it up as we go along.

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How well insulated is your boat?
It's well insulated: built for in Scandinavian conditions.

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... in Nov/Dec once we had it rain on every day for 42 days... didn't rain 'all day'.. but did rain at least once every day.
I lived in Bergen in Norway when it rained for 180 days in a row, THAT sucked!

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It's well insulated: built for in Scandinavian conditions.

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What is about Norwegian explorers and adventurers that they go from one cold wet environment to another while avoiding the sunny and pleasant bits (thinking of Amundsen here ). I have an excuse...I'm trying to escape 40*C summers.....

Are Ovnis really really well insulated from birth? That would explain the numbers that pass through Patagonia.
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Are Ovnis really really well insulated from birth?
Most are, but not all of them. It's an option you can tick off when they are being built.

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Earlier is better... all things being equal I am heading south this September...maybe even late August if I can get organised.
Sailing from Easter Island to Puerto Montt in August isn't recommended, because there is an increased chance of meeting gales en route.

The way it looks now:
- Get to Panama at the end of June
- Go through the Canal and shoot to Ecuador in July
- Head out to Easter Island some time at the end of August
- Aim southwards towards Puerto Montt in September
- Explore Patagonia starting in October

Alternatively, saving Easter Island for later, sailing southwards closer to the coast, trying to avoid the Humbolt.

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Coastwise would be an interesting trip but easier to do the other way around... this blog may or may not interest you.... Sequitur
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Coastwise would be an interesting trip but easier to do the other way around... this blog may or may not interest you.... Sequitur
Agreed. Fighting the Humbolt and having wind on the nose the entire way doesn't sound like a lot of fun. Sequitur really hammers that point home. Good blog. I liked it.

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Why the rush...? Spend the summer in the south and head north again in April.

How well insulated is your boat?....that is as much a summer issue as a winter one. Mind you a lot of Ovnis pass through... there always seem to be few in Montt.... dunno how they cope insulation wise.

Summer ( I tend to divide the Patagonian year into only two seasons) can be damp between Penas and Faro Fairway.. in Nov/Dec once we had it rain on every day for 42 days... didn't rain 'all day'.. but did rain at least once every day. Along with the low cloud it can take the gloss off the scenery.
We reckon we had rain everyday for 54 days last year http://www.tweedsworld.com/in-the-press/fifty-four-days-of-rain/

I agree though. Don't rush!

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Duff link there Chris... this works.. Fifty four days of rain | Tweed's World
Your blog is as good a read as ever..
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Duff link there Chris... this works.. Fifty four days of rain | Tweed's World
Your blog is as good a read as ever..
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