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Old 04-01-2012, 18:31   #31
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Re: Trying to Decide on Red Sea Passage

EU NAVFOR reports fairly constant incidents of piracte activity in the general area of Somalia over the past 3 years.
2011 - 176
2010 - 174
2009 - 163

The number of successful attacks has dropped, probably due to better defences.
2011 - 25
2010 - 47
2009 - 46
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Re: Trying to Decide on Red Sea Passage

Maybe this will be some help getting informed about Yemeni cooperation.
It is widely known that Yemenites are involved in the actions of the Somali' s and that the sympathy is particularly not directed towards the USA and Europe.
Better than contradict me, you could learn something from the reports as
given in the following links.


In Anti-Piracy Fight, Yemen May Be Part Of Problem : NPR

http://www.e-dnrs.org/wp-content/upl...acysomalia.pdf

Somalia and Yemen: The Links between Terrorism and State Failure - Mantzikos - 2011 - Digest of Middle East Studies - Wiley Online Library

Information and Guidance to Shipping in Gulf of Aden and adjacent waters.

http://www.dma.dk/SiteCollectionDocu...11_ENG_WEB.PDF

Kidnappers and Pirates Enjoy Sportsbooks and Online Casinos in Yemen

State Dept. to Americans: Stay away from Yemen - CBS News

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! Contemporary maritime piracy » Sicherheitspolitik » /e-politik.de/

Yemen - Pirates Take Cargo Ship Off Aden - NYTimes.com
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Old 04-01-2012, 20:45   #33
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Re: Trying to Decide on Red Sea Passage

I have done the Red Sea only once, and at the present time I would not do it again.

Check out some clips of sailing up the Red Sea at:

The Red Sea Chronicles - A First Class Sailing Adventure.* Captain Dave.

There are five video segments that tell about sailing in the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea.
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red sea,last trip in 2008 lol! gotta love those russian girls,and the sudanese fishermen!
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We are presently in Cape Town after crossing the Indian Ocean. The trip is bumpy and uncomfortable, but not dangerous. If you look at the cost of shipping as money you earn, you will pay yourself between $500 and $1,000 a day to sail your own boat to Cape Town. That is a deal.

So what you have is the possibility of being "beaten up a bit" by the rough conditions, or the possibiity of being beaten up for a year or so by a bunch of drugged up black guys! For me that is a "no-brainer".

Even if no boats were taken for a year or two, it doesn't mean the problem has gone away. The Red Sea is no longer a cruising ground.... get used to the idea.
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We are presently in Cape Town after crossing the Indian Ocean. The trip is bumpy and uncomfortable, but not dangerous. If you look at the cost of shipping as money you earn, you will pay yourself between $500 and $1,000 a day to sail your own boat to Cape Town. That is a deal.
What sort of sea and wind conditions did you have to deal with crossing the Indain Ocean?

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@ Atoll - Would you mind going again?
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My wife did not enjoy the bumpy conditions, nor did I for that matter. I would do it again rather than do the Red Sea. I talked to a couple of friends that did the Red Sea and two of them said that they would not do the Red Sea again, even if there were no pirates. The dust, sand and head winds were terrible. Then add the constant tension for weeks on end worrying about pirates made the trip a nightmare.

The winds were no higher than we had experienced in the Pacific, its just that the wave conditions were always confused. The peak winds would have been probably 35kts.
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Does anyone know what has happened to the Danish family on S/V ING?
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A 1-3 million dollar ransom was paid and they were released.

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We are in Brisbane and will be doing the South Africa route to arrive in Durban in late November/Early December. To my mind it is a no-brainer decision. We are going from Bali to Chagos to Mauritius/Reunion to Durban. Not looking forward to Reunion to Durban. I don't think that harbour-hopping in SA should be a big issue if you are careful. Looking forward to visiting SA again, after about six years - lovely country except for the crime part.
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My wife did not enjoy the bumpy conditions, nor did I for that matter. I would do it again rather than do the Red Sea. I talked to a couple of friends that did the Red Sea and two of them said that they would not do the Red Sea again, even if there were no pirates. The dust, sand and head winds were terrible. Then add the constant tension for weeks on end worrying about pirates made the trip a nightmare.

The winds were no higher than we had experienced in the Pacific, its just that the wave conditions were always confused. The peak winds would have been probably 35kts.
Maybe what Wombat says here is somewhat related to their timing (?). I say this because this is what Heikell claims in his book. I also find this confirmed in Pilot Charts.

We crossed very late (Sept from Darwin) and it was a fantastic sail nearly all the way down to Richards Bay (small boat - 26', medium displ and double-ended). We too had some days with gales but we did not get that cross or confused swells - it was mostly regular sea waves even though on many days they seemed to be well over 20' (I bet it was just my imagination). We got pooped only once on the whole crossing (easy in our boat as the freeboard is only 2 ft).

Recently I wx supported a boat crossing from Darwin even later in the season and they did not have any issues either. I believe the other option is go some early (June), sit out at Keeling, finish off in November.

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@ Atoll - Would you mind going again?
i just turned down a 15k euro delivery maldives to turkey in a nice 45 ft halburg rassy...........
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i just turned down a 15k euro delivery maldives to turkey in a nice 45 ft halburg rassy...........
Good Move Atoll

Some things like breathing and not being held for ransom are more important than money. Your new haircut is a fine example!

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Good Move Atoll

Some things like breathing and not being held for ransom are more important than money. Your new haircut is a fine example!

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mind you,i did offer to take the vessel via capetown for 25k,saving them a bit on having it shipped from the maldives.

my guess is the person arranging the delivery on behalf of the owner will find someone who will take the risk.............watch this space,next year in feb....dutch boat........
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