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Old 03-05-2010, 22:48   #91
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Since the fear mongers have sold USanians their paranoia , European tourism to the eastern US has dropped 40% and has increased 40% to Canada. They consider the US one of the hardest countries to get into, so don't bother much any more.
Thanks for the business.
I don't suppose you have some sort of reputable source for that?
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Hey Boatman...Just ask us west coasties what we generally think of east coasties manors....its a different country...LOL..Land on the other coast next time...
LMAO..... Cheers Stillraining... may just take you up on that one day... if I can get a direct flight with no stop-overs....
Wish I still had the hair to stick some flowers in tho'....
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:52   #93
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In case anyone's wondering, there IS water at the dock in Hiva Oa, but you have to jug it.

I just had to get a new passport because I'd filled my last one up in 2 years, so I know a bit about getting visas and bonds. Trust me, the FP bond requirements for non-EU nationals are no better or worse than other requirements for other nationals in a lot of other places including the US. It's no big deal, check in to Hiva Oa and pay your bond or buy/produce your air-ticket cruise around the islands til you're done. Check out of Papete and get your money back in FP francs, spend it on Moorea, Raitea, Taaha & Huahine then head off for the Cook Islands for more fun.

My wife and I have EU passports and we had to buy a refundable air-ticket in order to check off one boat in Papete and onto another - they just want to make sure you've got the means to leave, same as many many other countries in the world. Fortunately we can speak a smattering of French and the lady in the travel agency was extremely helpful providing us with a receipt and tickets which she immediately canceled. Kept the officials happy!

If you think you can travel the world without visa/bond issues, you're in for a big surprise!
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Found the French through out the South Pacific to be very helpfull including Gov. officials - Have fun wish I was there!
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Fortunately we can speak a smattering of French and the
I would suspect that this makes a huge difference anywhere you go. Everyone likes to feel respected, and showing up not even having bothered to learn "Hello" in their language is a quick way to make it seem like you don't.
I know "English is the official maritime language", but some things require dealing with non-maritime authorities, and anyway, I'd rather be polite and welcomed, than right and kicked out.
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The customs and immigration men in Papeete speak pretty good English, until you start complaining or disobey the rules--then they only understand French.

Many countries have costs of entry--they just come in different forms. You can spend $300 for one night in the Bahamas, or spend the equivalent in FP on the bond, or give the Australian quarantine service the money for taking all your food and checking your bottom...it would be great if there was an internet website which published the current costs in all forms for each country.
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What will they do? Whatever the hell they want, it's their country. They'll treat you like a criminal, just like we do to people who get caught entering the country illegally.Think about it. They have tropical paradise with limited resources and a pretty high cost of living. If they let every penniless scoundrel that wanted to drift in with no capacity to leave come there the whole place would fill up with losers from around the world, begging or stealing to get by, taking the jobs that locals need, burdening public services, etc., etc.
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If all they care about is that you have means to leave, then it should include any means.

Air-fare is a far-fetched expensive high-pollution, unsustainable and ludicrous form of transit. There are people (such as I) who have problems with air-sickness, fear of flight, inconvenient destination etc... Not to mention our lack of understanding of the long term effects of air travel on the atmosphere. (yes it really changes the weather)

For example, if you have exceptional charisma, then you could easily bum a ride from another cruiser and thus be except from any bonds. Have flippers? swim for it.

How about voluntary death/suicide if you stay too long? I like the firing squad agreement idea.

Its a bit confusing that they think FP is part of europe.. it isn't, europe is on the opposide side of the world. They just happened to go there and claim it a long time ago, but maybe as suggested earlier, the only way to change their mind would be to (successfully) rape and pillage the islands, overthrow the government there, etc etc..

There really _is_ such a thing as a world citizen. You _can_ get a world passport. And hundreds of countries, including FP, _have_ stamped it.

For now I think I will work more toward dodging around certain islands, and it is good to know you can probably leave if you make a mistake and visit the wrong one.
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If you can have the passport of a world citizen, who's taxes do you pay to be a part of their social systems?
That's just what French (yes a part of europe) polynesia, wants to avoid, freeloaders.
By having a passport, even a world passport, don't you defeat your own ideal of being a global citizen? If there were truly global citizens there would be no need for a passport of any kind except for in the instance of space travel......
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There really _is_ such a thing as a world citizen. You _can_ get a world passport. And hundreds of countries, including FP, _have_ stamped it.
Well, you could always try explaining it to them. When your sentence is finished and they deport you, you can let us know why they didn't play ball.
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If there were truly global citizens there would be no need for a passport of any kind except for in the instance of space travel......
But if Geckosenator went to Mars without a passport he would be an Illegal Alien

The locals might then zap him with a Ray Gun. and do probing experiments...............

................plusses and minuses to that I guess
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But if Geckosenator went to Mars without a passport he would be an Illegal Alien

The locals might then zap him with a Ray Gun. and do probing experiments...............

................plusses and minuses to that I guess
Is your goat a world citizen?! seems only fitting so long as we're on this track......might be eaiser for a goat to explain this the the officals when landing on foreign soil
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If all they care about is that you have means to leave, then it should include any means.

Air-fare is a far-fetched expensive high-pollution, unsustainable and ludicrous form of transit. There are people (such as I) who have problems with air-sickness, fear of flight, inconvenient destination etc... Not to mention our lack of understanding of the long term effects of air travel on the atmosphere. (yes it really changes the weather)

For example, if you have exceptional charisma, then you could easily bum a ride from another cruiser and thus be except from any bonds. Have flippers? swim for it.

How about voluntary death/suicide if you stay too long? I like the firing squad agreement idea.

Its a bit confusing that they think FP is part of europe.. it isn't, europe is on the opposide side of the world. They just happened to go there and claim it a long time ago, but maybe as suggested earlier, the only way to change their mind would be to (successfully) rape and pillage the islands, overthrow the government there, etc etc..

There really _is_ such a thing as a world citizen. You _can_ get a world passport. And hundreds of countries, including FP, _have_ stamped it.

For now I think I will work more toward dodging around certain islands, and it is good to know you can probably leave if you make a mistake and visit the wrong one.
Sounds like Hawaii.... if we're gonna get silly....Lmao.

As I understand it Maritime Law permits you to enter port for 48 hrs in emergencies such as repairs/water/provisions but no shore leave is permitted and only the Skipper/designated person is permitted ashore to arrange repairs/resupply. being solo most of the time thats spot on for me
If wrong I'm sure someone will correct me...
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There really _is_ such a thing as a world citizen. You _can_ get a world passport. And hundreds of countries, including FP, _have_ stamped it.
While it depends on how one defines "country," but by any definition, there are less than 200 countries, total, on the planet.

http://geography.about.com/cs/countr...rcountries.htm

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