Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 28-02-2011, 00:03   #1
cruiser

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane AUS
Boat: Cowther 43 - Hunter 40.5
Posts: 1,006
Vietnam - Cambodia

A mate of mine wants me to help him on a trip around the Cambodian Vietnamese boarder and associated Islands. This is the area we will be going to. We will be based around Phu Quoc and intend to go to the islands to the east.

cambodia - Google Maps

Has anyone been here, or heard about the area? When are the storm and monsoon seasons? Where can I find out about weather of the area?

Thanks Dennis.
__________________

__________________
dennisail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2011, 00:25   #2
Registered User
 
cat man do's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats launched]
Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered
Posts: 4,409
Images: 36
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Quote:
Originally Posted by dennisail View Post
A mate of mine wants me to help him on a trip around the Cambodian Vietnamese boarder and associated Islands.
Obviously not on his own boat?
Vietnam is not open to cruisers yet
they treat you as a commercial vessel with the corresponding fees
you can only go from one major port to the next major port, no deviation
__________________

__________________
"Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a yacht large enough to pull up right alongside it"...............David Lee Roth
Long Distance Motorboat Cruising It Is Possible on a Small Budget
cat man do is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2011, 00:32   #3
cruiser

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane AUS
Boat: Cowther 43 - Hunter 40.5
Posts: 1,006
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

It will be on our own boat which is yet to be purchased. He speaks fluent Vietnamese and some Khmer. He currently lives in Cambodia and lived for Vietnam for years. He is a film maker and will have the correct clearance to make the film.

So anyone got info on weather patterns for the area?
__________________
dennisail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2011, 01:26   #4
cruiser

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane AUS
Boat: Cowther 43 - Hunter 40.5
Posts: 1,006
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

I found this. Looks like we will have rain during our planned trip in June/July. But at least there will be wind. Seems Typhoons are fairly rare in this area and occur later in the year.

http://discoverphuquoc.com/climateweather.html#a2
__________________
dennisail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2011, 04:20   #5
CF Adviser
 
Pelagic's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 6,888
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

I think there was someone in Hong Kong organizing a race there. You might want to contact the Hong Kong Yacht Club to see what they have achieved
__________________
Pelagic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 00:45   #6
cruiser

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane AUS
Boat: Cowther 43 - Hunter 40.5
Posts: 1,006
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Thanks guys. So no cruisers really go to the islands off Vietnam? The government has banned cruising? What about Cambodia?
__________________
dennisail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 01:45   #7
Registered User
 
bewitched's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 885
Images: 3
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

The RHKYC organises a bi-annual race to Na Trang. I've done it a couple of times.

The first one in 1996 or so and was a bit of a fiasco, with boats getting impounded, people not allowed ashore to provision for the trip back etc. The next try was in 2005? - (the same year as the Tsunami) - my first and this went OK. Local Gov't was behind it and welcome was very good. A cruise afterwards was organised, but there were no takers. To my knowledge the cruise was never tried again. The race has been a fairly regular fixture since then (last years was cancelled due to typhoon activity though)

I have heard of people stopping there (Na Trang) on deliveries or fuel or shelter, but its big hassle, big money - I wouldn't choose to do it.

Sunsail did (maybe still do?) take boats up there. I know they were having lots of legal / logistical problems. Not sure if they got them ironed out or are even still there.

There are a couple of expats in Na Trang who (at least used to) help out with the RHKYC race. I don't have there contacts, but I'm sure RHKYC will.

My view of Vietnam is that it is an absolute gem waiting to be opened up for cruising. It will happen, but for me the hassle factor is too high.

If someone like yourself is prepared to push the cause a little further, I take my hat off to you and hope that there are more like you out there.

Cambodia I have visited often, but have no experience of sailing there - I've not heard of anyone who has - I would expect it to be much more restrictive and it is most certainly much more dangerous, but your friend will know much better than I.

Weather NE monsoon in winter, SW monsoon in summer. Neither will stop you sailing the Cambodian coastline. I'd be much more worried about the natives. Lots of guns, drugs and dead people in that little corner of Asia.
__________________
bewitched is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 02:09   #8
Registered User
 
bewitched's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 885
Images: 3
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Just re-read the thread. You mate hasn't bought the boat and wants to make a film of that particular location?

Would renting / buying a local boat be the answer. Would sure get rid of a whole lot of "foreign vessel" problems.
__________________
bewitched is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 02:19   #9
cruiser

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane AUS
Boat: Cowther 43 - Hunter 40.5
Posts: 1,006
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Thanks for that info. The area seems untouched which is the attraction. The plan is to buy the boat in Vietnam which will help somewhat. I am a little worried about the dangers of Piracy in the area.
__________________
dennisail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 17:29   #10
Registered User
 
bewitched's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 885
Images: 3
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Plan to buy in Vietnam is a good one I think. Getting local business / labour involved will also open doors. I wouldn't worry about personal safety in Vietnam. I've been visiting the country for over 10 years and had a couple of projects down there a few years back. Vietnam is completely safe and is one of my favourite asian countries.

The problem is that the Government, their departments and legislation are struggling to keep up with the massive changes that have happened. The way many departments operate is still assuming a closed, party dictated country - which it isn't. So when a group of foreigners want to sail down the coast, the immediate reaction is "spies". It matters not a jot that you can drive down the coast road. (which is a great trip by the way).

Go for it, and let us know how it all went.

Cambodia - like I said I don't speak from experience, but my gut feel is that this country will be a much bigger challenge.
__________________
bewitched is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 17:54   #11
Registered User
 
cat man do's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats launched]
Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered
Posts: 4,409
Images: 36
Re: Vietnam - Cambodia

Quote:
Originally Posted by bewitched View Post
Sunsail did (maybe still do?) take boats up there. I know they were having lots of legal / logistical problems. Not sure if they got them ironed out or are even still there.
Nope, they have gone

Theres an F24 in Hoi An that does day trips, but that's all I came across when there last VIETNAM SAILING

Quote:
There are a couple of expats in Na Trang who (at least used to) help out with the RHKYC race. I don't have there contacts, but I'm sure RHKYC will.
I contacted saigon tourist last year about it as it seemed they did a lot of the internal organisation for the HK to Nha Trang races.
Thats where I got my information about being treated as a commercial ship, with the exorbitant fees and was told that one could only sail designated port to designated port, no stopping, no deviation.
More info and a few names here
My Sailing: Venture into Vietnam
__________________

__________________
"Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a yacht large enough to pull up right alongside it"...............David Lee Roth
Long Distance Motorboat Cruising It Is Possible on a Small Budget
cat man do is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Cambodia, Vietnam

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cambodia alanperry Pacific & South China Sea 11 24-03-2016 19:08
Best Route Out of Cambodia Rhoel_Asia Other 16 31-10-2009 13:27
Seattle to Cambodia Route alanperry Pacific & South China Sea 15 14-01-2007 01:28



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:19.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.