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Old 03-04-2016, 13:52   #1
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Vancouver to oz

We are building our boat but will be sailing my to Australia with our kids to move there and I'm wanting to hear anyone's experience with doing this when they arrived in oz what was the process did you have to bring your boat our for inspection or did they do it In The water or anything thing else you can tell me about what to expect upon arrival
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Old 03-04-2016, 14:21   #2
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Earl Heinz wrote an entire book about this kinda stuff. There is also the internet, where you can find check-in procedures for almost every country in the world.

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Do you know the name of the book and been looking on Internet but just wanted to hear anyone's experience
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When we arrived in 2006 there was no lifting and there was an underwater camera inspection and the dog (the dog - above water). Of course, our bottom was pristine.

We were asked to show proof of recent (6 months old max) antifouling. Which we did by hand and they accepted our Micton Extra slips from chandlery in Auckland and invoice bill from boatyard stay (also Auck).

There was nothing in the inspection other than what they say on their website with advice for visiting boats. Stick to their rules and you are 100% safe.

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https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Ente/...-%28arrival%29

If in any doubt, simply drop them an email and ask specific questions. They are absolutely fabulous people most helpful and informative.

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As far as taxes go, you will need to provide proof of where the boat was constructed. As some boats come in tax free while others have some duty.

I have heard through forums, such as this, that timber boats are somewhat more problematic than Plastic,steel and Ferro. This is to prevent worm and other critters getting into our environment. Not overly sure. But I am certain AQIS will have some info on their website.

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We are building our boat our selves and getting it surveyed regularly for when we make the trip and it's make of Fiberglass
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Re: Vancouver to oz

When arriving in Oz the experience varies considerably between different entry ports, and between individual officers with whom you interact. Thus it is hard to predict exactly what you will experience.

There are two groups to deal with; Customs (now relabeled as Border Force or some such) and AQIS, the quarantine folks. The Customs inspections are pretty standard and similar to those elsewhere, with examination of ships and crews paperwork, a (usually) perfunctory search for contrabrand, and a nice welcome to Australia. AQIS inspections vary wildly in intensity. We've had lockers rummaged for hidden foodstuffs, careful search for tiny insects which were then captured and put into sample bottles, various and varying foods confiscated, well beyond the usual fresh veg and meat list, shells confiscated, wooden and fiber art objects sprayed with insecticides... a truly boggling list of considerations. And on the other hand, we have had inspectors give a casual glance in the fridge and take almost nothing. No way to predict this... A few have looked at the waterline for growth, none have used underwater inspection devices, some have asked when the bottom was painted last, none have required proof... but then, our waterline has been clean. Do be aware that there is a hefty charge for the AQIS inspection: 385 AUD if you clear in between 8 and 16 hrs, M-F. Other times are double time. Some jurisdictions will allow you to anchor in a quarantine area until morning if you arrive at night, others will not. Some cruisers choose to heave to offshore to fine tune arrival times.

So, in answer to your question, as usual... it all depends!!

If you are planning to immigrate, at some point you will need to import your boat. If you will have already become residents or citizens before arrival, I believe that it will be immediately upon arrival... you should check before you leave, and perhaps have enough ready cash to do so. The cost at present is 10% GST and 5% duty, all based on the assessed valuation of the boat. if it was built in the USA, I believe the duty is waived at present. Again, check shortly before departure, for these rules change at times.

The arrival procedure, as outlined above, was in effect at our last entry, November 2015, when we entered at Coffs Harbour, NSW.

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AQIS stands for Australian Quarantine Inspection Service and due to their diligence Australia has remained clean of many of the pests which infest other countries. The problem is that just about any foreign or alien invaders tend to thrive here and become a real problem with it. I visit a place called Maryborough in Queensland and last year whole city blocks had to be sealed in plastic and fumigated because of a termite which had managed to slip in.


The lesson was learned by the locals when in 1788 a few boatloads of aliens turned up and were allowed to take root. There are now 21,000,000 of them and they have fouled the place up entirely with their roads, railways, town cities and farms and imported flora and fauna. The dominant local tribe now have decided they will not get caught like the last lot hence AQIS.


If you are still building your boat it might be an idea to research the timber products you are going to use fitting it out with a view to avoid using those prone to harbouring wood pests and what may be acceptable treatments. Demonstrating and documenting prudence and forethought might assist you when AQIS turn up.
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Good one, Raymond! The most destructive non-native species ever to reach Oz is certainly the deadly European homo sapien. Fumigating for them is frowned on, though, and they seem to reproduce rapidly and without thought for the future. there is no hope...

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AQIS has been Dept of Agriculture for some time.


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You may be right, there, Tientos, but as far as I know, they are not a service of the Australian government, they are a contract organization doing a job for the government, and (imo) empire building as fast as they can! Therefore, their charges keep increasing, because it isn't going to the guys on the ground who are salaried, and do not see an extra penny for the triple time charged on Sundays and Holidays; that goes for building infrastructure.

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Ann anything with the name 'Department' will generally indicate 'Government'. In this case, AQIS (Quarantine and Biosecurity) was absorbed into The Australian Government Department of Agriculture and Water Resources. Biosecurity
The same guys who check us when entering Australia, who also come to the Marina (which husband runs) to check timber boats etc,are still employed by the Government.
Your statement "...Border Force or some such..." is still the Department of Immigration and Border Protection. https://www.border.gov.au/
If promulgating information on Australia, it is perhaps best to provide current information for potential new arrivals.
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Ann anything with the name 'Department' will generally indicate 'Government'. In this case, AQIS (Quarantine and Biosecurity) was absorbed into The Australian Government Department of Agriculture and Water Resources. Biosecurity
The same guys who check us when entering Australia, who also come to the Marina (which husband runs) to check timber boats etc,are still employed by the Government.
Your statement "...Border Force or some such..." is still the Department of Immigration and Border Protection. https://www.border.gov.au/
If promulgating information on Australia, it is perhaps best to provide current information for potential new arrivals.
Just to be clear, here, according to our information which was re-enforced when we re-entered Oz last November, the situation was as I described in my post preceding yours. I did not write the words, "Border Force or some such," and I deny responsibility for what Jim's fingers type; that's outside my control.

When we left, last year, it was the Customs guys who told us they were now to be referred to as "Australian Border Force", a change that at the time we left was quite new according to them. I have no reason to disbelieve them.

Customs/Border Force, are a service, actually, a free service to the user. AQIS is not.

As you suggest, it IS best to provide both current and correct information, and the correct names for the various groups will help, so thank you for that, and especially for the links, which should help the OP with his investigation.

And now a question for you, does AQIS not stand for Agricultural Quarantine Inspection Service? sort of using "service", as we use "in the service", in the American sense of the armed forces? and AQIS is subsumed under the rubric of Agriculture.gov/bioservices at this time?

Second question, Customs & Immigration appeared separate, as Australian Customs Service, and the Immigration as Department of Immigration, Migration, and Indigenous Affairs, and that's how we learned them when we first arrived in Australia, so, as far as you know, are some of those subsets now subdivided differently?

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There is also the internet, where you can find check-in procedures for almost every country in the world.
This is what bores me about CF - the OP asked for people's experiences and the first responder generally has no experience or can answer the OP's question, but feels they have to be a smart-ass and build up their post count all the same.

Thanks to every one else who posted - we're looking to do the same trip soon and your experiences are very helpful.

To the OP - careful with AQIS. Every year we go back to Aus and it seems the restrictions get that little bit tighter. Don't take pets back to Aus unless you want to fork out $6,000AUD each, and careful moving about the country - moving fruit / veg between some states is a fruit fly risk and carries a hefty penalty.

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