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Old 26-09-2013, 12:31   #16
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Re: Reasons not to visit Vanuatu

Jim, I get the impression that FP may be the outlier in terms of fees in French territories. In the Eastern Caribbean (Martinique, Guadeloupe, St Martin) it was free to a few euros depending on whether you were dealing with a government office or an outsourced entry office. In Guadeloupe we entered at a gift shop, sat down at a computer and filled out your own form and pushed a button which sent the info somewhere and printed out the form which the owner of he gift shop signed. I think it was 3 euros which I am sure went to the gift shop. You could even do the exit at the same time if you knew how long you were staying.

I think FP is autonomous enough that they can create their own bureacracy.
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Old 26-09-2013, 13:42   #17
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We have experienced a 65% reduction in cruising boats visiting since 2010. Pretty sure I know the reason why but would rather hear Pacific cruisers' opinions before launching a campaign to attract boats back again. So, why are boats not coming here anymore?
We were there last year. While some of the fees and charges were a bit annoying, like the approximately $1 per day "port fees" (what ports?) the main reason we'd be unlikely to return was the weather.

We stayed nearly 5 months in the "dry" season, and it rained almost every day.

On the positive side, the people are wonderful, and mount Yasur is awesome.
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Old 26-09-2013, 13:44   #18
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What kind of work do you do there?
I own a marine engineering and support company.
Thanks for your comments folks. I hadn't thought of the malaria angle but it is certainly less prevalent than it was so I don't think it is a major contributing factor but possibly has a small influence.
I feel the 12 pages of paperwork, 2 passport photos, 6000 vatu/person and monthly trip to immigration is the main factor in play here but would love to hear any other reasons.
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We were there last year. While some of the fees and charges were a bit annoying, like the approximately $1 per day "port fees" (what ports?) the main reason we'd be unlikely to return was the weather.

We stayed nearly 5 months in the "dry" season, and it rained almost every day.

On the positive side, the people are wonderful, and mount Yasur is awesome.
Last year was certainly bad. We had a bit of rain last Monday which broke a drought. They had started shooting cattle on Santo due to the feed drying up.
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In our years of South Pacific cruising, the only place that we have found with no fees is New Caledonia, *which is kinda odd when you compare them with French Polynesia (another French overseas territory which is expensive and complicated to visit).
Hi Jim, There is the bond issue but other than the bond, what high fees are you referring to in FP? As far as I know there aren't any. Cheers, Livia
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Hi Jim, There is the bond issue but other than the bond, what high fees are you referring to in FP? As far as I know there aren't any. Cheers, Livia
Well, I thought that the bond issue was enough to qualify as expensive, and in our case some years ago, it was complicated. I don't remember any other fees to be honest, but then the last time we went through it was in 1990!

But New Cal is just so easy: immigration and quarantine show up at your boat very quickly and have no fees attached. If customs does not appear within two hours, you are free to proceed, and in the case of our last few entries they were no-shows. Departure involves walking between several different buildings, but is laid back and again no fees are involved.

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Re: Reasons not to visit Vanuatu

Wouldn't the cost to go through the Panama Canal be a lot more than the $300 for the Bahamas?

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i have crossed the bahamas off my list for this reason. if i have to pay $300 just to stop in for a few weeks, plus docking fees, then there are about 800 other places to visit. so if by the time i arrive in the south pacific in 2015 the fee is not a lot less, i will pass on by.
we are not wealthy cruisers, but i would estimate we will spend about 2-300US at each place we stop for a few weeks.
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I wonder how Scoobert will like it when he finds out you have to pay a daily fee in Papeete just to anchor and tie stern to a few bollards? Or a little higher fee to anchor and tie stern to, to a cement quay. It goes by the size of your boat, and 45 feet is generally not looked upon as a poor cruisers boat. Also the gun issue. As a country we are very gun tolerant , my father was a gun smith so I am one of the more tolerant types, but to assume that just because our boat has an American Flag on it, we can impose our standards on another country is absurd. There are reasons for laws being different concerning guns,animals,food stuff, etc, and to think we can ignore the laws of a different country makes us out to be the proverbial ugly American. I also hope Scoobert looks at the video of the similar sized boat anchored at Pitcairn when the wind shifted. His 5/16 anchor chain may look a little small after seeing what real cruising can be like. I ran out of money before I got as far west as Vanuatu but I think the extra fees for uncrowded anchorages might be well worth the money, but the once a month paper work sounds like a pain. I hope everyone cruises with a good attitude!!!!_____Grant.
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Re: Reasons not to visit Vanuatu

I think you're assuming he ever goes anywhere. People who talk about what they're going to do, living in their heads in the future, rarely ever go anywhere.
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i have crossed the bahamas off my list for this reason. if i have to pay $300 just to stop in for a few weeks, plus docking fees, then there are about 800 other places to visit. so if by the time i arrive in the south pacific in 2015 the fee is not a lot less, i will pass on by.
we are not wealthy cruisers, but i would estimate we will spend about 2-300US at each place we stop for a few weeks.
things that will make us not stop:

high marina fees
zero tolerance for unboard guns
intolerance for vaccinated animals (i do not mind keeping them onboard)
high check in fees
crooked government (more then $10US bribe required for check-in/out)
nasty people.

i very much look forward to the pitcairn islands. and all the south pacific has to offer in the way of low cost visiting.

so here you have one cruisers view.
Scoobert as others have said out of the USA you won't get too far with guns onboard.
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Scoobert as others have said out of the USA you won't get too far with guns onboard.

forget the guns!

what you need is a compressed air 1000 ball a minute, ball bearing projector

perfect for clearing anchorages,and almost silent
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Re: Reasons not to visit Vanuatu

Get a can of bear spray and call it a day. Very effective for close range.
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Get a can of bear spray and call it a day. Very effective for close range.
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forget the guns!

what you need is a compressed air 1000 ball a minute, ball bearing projector

perfect for clearing anchorages,and almost silent

propane potato gun. can be broken down into small parts, can be loaded with a warning, plastic wear, or a deadly shot, jacks. (like the kids game, with the ball)
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propane potato gun. can be broken down into small parts, can be loaded with a warning, plastic wear, or a deadly shot, jacks. (like the kids game, with the ball)
My poor wife would have a heart attack at wasting the potatoes. Being a mid-western girl, every meal has potatoes.......

Not that I don't love my wife's cooking...but I for one would LOVE a potato gun...for my own reasons...
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