Originally Posted by tsparks
blue soverign. or "THE PIRATE".
so i get the reality. now if you wouldn't mind give me some piece of mind. we want to sail to new zealand. we don't care how many boats it takes to get there. we would like to get there by december 09, but thats not in stone.
so what i'm asking is, is there another way? hawaii? fly into samoa catch a ride to new zealand?
i understand that it would be tough to get the three of us on a boat, and at that with someone we wouldn't go insane from, but cut us the credit of sharing the same dream and gimme something to work with.
You want "piece of mind" or "the truth"??? Sorry however you can't have it both ways!
Listen very carefully: the same natural forces that dictated when and where Cook, Columbus, Magellian ... pick any explorer you want ... could go, still dictates when and where a sailboat can go today. Ever hear of Jimmy Cornell's "World Cruising Routes"??? If not, perhaps you should go to the nearest library and "discover religion"!
Here's reality plain and simple:
You and your mates needed to be in PV or at the canal at least 3 weeks ago
to catch a boat going West. Anything out of Hawaii (and there are not many yachts leaving from there for the Marquesas or Tahiti) also start NOW.
Yachts are allowed to spend only 3 months in French Polynesia
which means having to cover the Marquesas, through the Tuamotus Islands, then through the Society's (Tahiti, Moorea, Huahine, Raitea, Bora-Bora, etc). A lot of geography to cover in just 3 months!
As stated earlier people mainly seek crew on the long-distance stretches. That means PV to Marquesas and if you're lucky onto Tahiti
, and then again from Tonga (and in a few cases Fiji) to New Zealand.
Want to be in NZ for Dec 09???:
Then really gamble a ****-load of money away, and show up in Tahiti
in late June-early July. Tahiti is an extremely
expensive place, which offers few if any crewing opportunities. I spent about 5 weeks between Tahiti and the other Society islands, which required I take a freighter from Tahiti and then hitch a ride with yachties that I knew, but 3 islands later in Raitea, to join a 65 footer with an alcoholic captain
in Bora Bora
, which enabled me to get out of the Society Islands (in my case to the Cook Islands).
Of course you could also gamble more money away, and fly from Tahiti to Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas in late May-early June, hang out and see if by the middle of June, you and your mates can find two or three yachts who want some additional help after having to "bust their ass" sailing for ~25-30 days across the Pacific.
A lot of American boats will leave the Society's (usually from Bora-Bora) and go to American Samoa
in August to stock up on depleted food
stocks and especially cheap
booze. However again, those in Samoa will mostly be just moving onto Tonga from there ... a relatively easy "trade-winds" sail ... crew is not required.
Want your odds for a crewing opportunity to substantially increase? Show up in Tonga (problem is where, as there is either Vava'u, the northern most island group, or Nukuʻalofa, the capital and the southern most group ... and you can't be in both places at once!). However the only crewing you will do from Tonga is a potentially 'very rough trip' from Tonga to NZ (~9-12 days)
What do I think is your BEST bet? You and your mates "chill out" until Sept/Oct 09, attend the Ba Ha Ha crew parties in San Fran and San Diego, get on Latitude 38's crew list for the 09 Ba Ha Ha ASAP, and "go for the dream" then!
Like I said, "it ain't pretty" what is written above, however it sure as hell is "the truth", based on personal knowledge and experience....
William aka 'The PIRATE'