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sailorjed3 · 24-05-2016, 09:41

I simply cannot resist mentioning that perhaps the largest single pollutant in the world is its most dominant species: homo sapien (as in its population). Has anyone noted how rapidly the rate of reproduction of humans is increasing in the past few decades? The planet is slowly being destroyed by our excesses, both in species and in the things we produce for these bodies.

I know it may offend those soft minded people that gush: "oh, but babies are cute and cuddly". And "its against our religion and politics to limit our reproduction". But use your heads, folks. It's in organized religions' interests as well as corporations, politicians, and the medical industry to want more customers, subjects, and religious adherents. Why do you think there are so many wars, pollution, diminished resources, and epidemics? TOO MANY HUMANS. If we could limit our offspring to one child, that would help. And yes, I do have one child, whom I love very much. I apologize for using this blog for this reason. I don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but if only more people would just realize what is happening and do something about it.

Kenomac · 24-05-2016, 10:01

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Originally Posted by sailorjed3

I simply cannot resist mentioning that perhaps the largest single pollutant in the world is its most dominant species: homo sapien (as in its population). Has anyone noted how rapidly the rate of reproduction of humans is increasing in the past few decades? The planet is slowly being destroyed by our excesses, both in species and in the things we produce for these bodies.

I know it may offend those soft minded people that gush: "oh, but babies are cute and cuddly". And "its against our religion and politics to limit our reproduction". But use your heads, folks. It's in organized religions' interests as well as corporations, politicians, and the medical industry to want more customers, subjects, and religious adherents. Why do you think there are so many wars, pollution, diminished resources, and epidemics? TOO MANY HUMANS. If we could limit our offspring to one child, that would help. And yes, I do have one child, whom I love very much. I apologize for using this blog for this reason. I don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but if only more people would just realize what is happening and do something about it.

Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah......

This picture kinda puts it all into perspective.

Jaylonious · 24-05-2016, 10:34

Didn't mean for this to go sideways. Just wanted a few tips. Back to the topic at hand, are there pumpouts in any of the leeward islands?

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jmschmidt · 24-05-2016, 10:40

I’ve chartered in French Polynesia many times. To my knowledge there are no pump-out stations anywhere in the primary cruising grounds which are centered around the charter operations bases on the island of Raiatea 120km miles north of Papeete, Tahiti. Nobody uses their holding tanks which I have never heard mentioned in the briefings. French Polynesia covers an area larger than continental Europe. If overlaid on a map it would cover an area from England to Greece and from Finland to Spain. The population is only about 280,000, over 200,000 of who live on the island of Tahiti. Don’t worry about. Also, there are no crowded anchorages, two boats within 100 yards is really tight.

Jaylonious · 24-05-2016, 10:48

Thanks a lot @jmschmidt. Very helpful. I think that closes this thread out. Much appreciated.

roygee · 24-05-2016, 11:43

I just purchased a C-head, will remove the standard head from the boat. Solves a lot of problems, and gets good compost for on shore plants. The threading on Earth lightly solution.

Kenomac · 24-05-2016, 11:53

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I just purchased a C-head, will remove the standard head from the boat. Solves a lot of problems, and gets good compost for on shore plants. The threading on Earth lightly solution.

The OP is chartering a boat in Tahiti. What do you want them to do? Travel half way around the world with a C-Head in tow, change out the head in the charter boat, then fertilize the native vegetation with their feces?

midnite44 · 24-05-2016, 12:13

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haha. thanks. I suppose I'll try to avoid crowded moorages then.

why don't you buy an MSD (marine sanitation Device ) they're inexpensive, and the effluent is treated so that anything released into the lagoon is biologically neutral , also you won't be putting any logs into the water to be floating by my vessel . The effluent can also be held in a holding tank for later re;ease . $800 bucks for a Rataran MSD is a good protection for our enviornment.

Mouetterieuse · 24-05-2016, 12:51

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I think it's all about density of humans and the ability of nature to consume the biological waste that we produce.

In the middle of an ocean it is the most natural and sustainable thing to do to throw all your biological waste into the sea. That's what all the other animals do too, starting from the whales. And some creatures live out of that useful material.

Things are a bit different when close to other people. We usually use the kitchen sink and the head for different purposes. We don't drop waste next to someone's swimming beach. A small lagoon could soon be spoiled.

We tend to use our holding tank and the pumping stations that are numerous up here. But we are surprised how seldom we see fellow sailors use those free pumping stations. I do understand and even support people who say that there should be no strict rules on what kind of waste handling systems boats should have. But I'd expect everyone to use sufficient means to avoid leaving harmful waste in any vulnerable spots like small lagoons, beaches and marinas, or next to other boats.

Simple rule: if it can be harmful, don't do it.

Tahiti and generally French Polynesia moorings are not very crowded - you will be more than often alone.

Paul L · 24-05-2016, 13:27

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...Has anyone noted how rapidly the rate of reproduction of humans is increasing in the past few decades? .....

Actually it is just the opposite, the rate of population growth has gone way down. [QUOTE]Annual growth rate reached its peak in the late 1960s, when it was at 2% and above. The rate of increase has therefore almost halved since its peak of 2.19 percent, which was reached in 1963.[QUOTE]

Paul L · 24-05-2016, 13:31

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Didn't mean for this to go sideways. Just wanted a few tips. Back to the topic at hand, are there pumpouts in any of the leeward islands?

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From Panama to New Zealand is almost 8,000 miles (12,000 km) and the first pump out you'll see will probably be in New Zealand. And there won't be line to use it.

**StuM** · 24-05-2016, 15:26

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We usually use the kitchen sink and the head for different purposes.

Ah-ha! Another one who occasionally pees in the sink, eh?

jackdale · 24-05-2016, 15:30

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Ah-ha! Another one who occasionally pees in the sink, eh?

That beats washing dishes in the head.

Juho · 24-05-2016, 15:33

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Tahiti and generally French Polynesia moorings are not very crowded - you will be more than often alone.

If you are alone, then it may be quite ok to throw some biological waste to the sea. But maybe not when you are planning to go swimming

. Probably there are some animals or plants that are happy to take care of small amounts of waste.

At one beach in Fiji some locals pointed out a small school of fish to me, saying that they are the ones that take care of any human waste in the water.