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Old 30-10-2015, 14:34   #31
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

Here's some questions that no one asked. What is the boat? Inboard/Outboard, Fibreglass or Wood. A lot will depend on how the boat was finished and what the condition is. Did it sink in fresh or salt water? Salt water all electrics are done. Fresh water wiring should be ok with cleaning up connection points but the equipment is fried. how much equipment is done. if it's a simple boat it may be worthy your while. Not only getting to know the boat but having a lot of first hand experience with it.
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Here's some questions that no one asked. What is the boat? Inboard/Outboard, Fibreglass or Wood. A lot will depend on how the boat was finished and what the condition is. Did it sink in fresh or salt water? Salt water all electrics are done. Fresh water wiring should be ok with cleaning up connection points but the equipment is fried. how much equipment is done. if it's a simple boat it may be worthy your while. Not only getting to know the boat but having a lot of first hand experience with it.
actually, its been asked now a few times, just not answered. im hoping the op comes back and answers as this makes all the difference in having all the facts. something like a wwp 19 would be a bargain if sunk and raised in 24 hours and given for free, where a 1975 boat never used in the last 20 yrs that sank and was raised in 24 hours with inboard and much electronics might not be worth it.

another thing to think about. people often talk about electronics, but if you just want a simple boat and you are talking about something less than 30 feet, you really dont need any electronics except running lights and thats only if you go sailing at night. a daysailer could go without any of that stuff and a daysailer is what the op sounds like he might be balking about.

even a 25-30 foot boat with inboard, shute, take that out and put on an ob motor mount and buy a used motor for getting in and out of slip. if you have sails and everything else is good to go it would make a good free daysailer.

but everything said so far is speculation as to many unknowns to give good answers without op letting us know what boat.
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There was beautiful wooden boat sunken in Antigua during Hurricane Georges. There was a lot of damage in that hurricane.

Some one decided to raise her and restore her. After raising her and starting work, the guy had to go home to earn more money to finish her. While he was gone another hurricane came through and blew her over on a mound of dirt, she was on stands, caving in her side. So after some suing and more time, 3 years later and about the price of a new boat, maybe more, the new owner had a beautiful 120' wooden yacht.

So yeah, go a head, but you should have deep pockets, be a lawyer or be a lawyer with deep pockets.
Wooden boats historically were sunk on a routine basis to clean it, tighten it, and to protect it from storm waves. Your addressing hurricane damage issues, not water issues. No captain you.
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

There is a local boat here in kingston which also sank at the dock while unattended during the winter (heater shut off, water in through hulls froze and burst, glug glug glug). Was raised withing 2 days.

Please, give it neck.
That means RUN.
The boat is toast.
Its ruined.
Don't even think about it.

Its a buyers market and prices are super low. You can do so much better.
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There is a local boat here in kingston which also sank at the dock while unattended during the winter (heater shut off, water in through hulls froze and burst, glug glug glug). Was raised withing 2 days.

Please, give it neck.
That means RUN.
The boat is toast.
Its ruined.
Don't even think about it.

Its a buyers market and prices are super low. You can do so much better.
Would u say that about a wwp 19?
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

Most parts are all the same price.
Re-building a Hinkley would cost no more than a cheap boat. So...
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Old 30-10-2015, 16:22   #37
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

My current boat sank 40 years ago thru no fault of it's own. A previous owner had loaned the boat to a client. The bozo anchored in a bay with large tides. He and his party went ashore leaving all the ports open. No thought to the tides. The boat settled on a bolder and laid on it's side. The incoming tide fill the hull thru the open ports.
After refloating the boat was rebuilt to a Monk design. The boat was rewired, but the engines were just flushed and restarted. They were still operating when I bought the boat.
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Old 30-10-2015, 16:44   #38
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What about a cat that had been flipped? I thought I heard that the Gunboat at the Annapolis boat show had turned turtle somewhere...St Maartan?

Not the OP's question, but a good question none the less, even if I do say so.
With the ones that flip they simply buy a new outboard motor, repair any broken cross beams, then flog it off and buy a new one. (as I've seen)
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

So yeah, go a head, but you should have deep pockets, be a lawyer or be a lawyer with deep pockets.[/QUOTE]

I have lawyers in my family, I'm calling this an oxymoron. Capt. Bodine hit a good point though. If it's a wooden boat, then think about it. It's not what happens in the bilge or even the boards. When the water hides the power panel, then it's a No. I looked at a boat half under. We couldn't wait to get away, that poor divorced Mother.
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

"Would you consider buy a boat that sank?"

LOL I actually prefer the ones that float.
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Re: Would you consider buy a boat that sank?

So much for polite and impersonal remarks. Some of the salts responding to to the original post pick what they see as something not asked, then move forward with similar remarks of their own about unasked matters and tales suggesting vast experience. Be cautious about any boat that sunk, the more so if you do not know the reason for the sinking. The mechanism that heats the galley stove may be quickly damaged by immersion in salt water and a failure to properly cleanse immediately. I'd hate to be blown up because of a damaged propane system due to unseen corrosion. Likewise electric or alcohol while unlikely to explode does burn. Surprise to some: stainless does not heat all by its lonesome except in some latitudes. On the other hand I am not clear how deck cores would be adversely affected by immersion unless they already had a problem. The toilet was a "duh." Urine is worse than sea water, and seawater is worse than fresh. So. There are plenty of small boats that have sunk and been refloated with great results. Didn't or doesn't Fatty Goodlander have one. I have seen a lot of ads for a sail boat (Nor'sea 27) in Santa Cruz, CA now back in Moss Landing, that would probably be great in the proper hands at the right price and a decent refit budget. On the other remaining hand, a power boat might be a separate issue since in my biased opinion they have so many systems affected by even routine corrosion that I'd only want one of our previously responding experts to consider the matter, and then only on his own dime.
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Hi, well much depends on two things, you and how cheap you can get the boat for. Your character may be such that you are reasonably skilled with your hands and brain and have some money.That you like a challenge, that you have lots of patience and don't mind setbacks. Have lots of great and willing friends to help if needed. The boat needs to be bought for next to nothing and even then only if it was of grp construction, I would think a wood boat would be a no no unless you are an enthusiast of wood and know what you face. Whatever you decide, think long and hard first. Myself, I do not believe in buying that much work. Good luck. skiggy.
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Hi! I'm somewhat new to the boating world and am looking for my first boat. There is one that has caught my eye, but I'm leary as it sank once while at dock. It was raised within 24 hours.

Ignoring the engine and anything electrical - how much of an issue is this? Would the deck core likely be affected? What about wiring? The stove would probably be shot. The head?
Going back to the original post. A first boat and having sunk to the degree of asking about deck coring. I think it would be folly to suggest he buy it.
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My son just has - for 100!
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...I'm somewhat new to the boating world and am looking for my first boat. There is one that has caught my eye, but I'm leary as it sank once while at dock...
I'd say you are off to a really bad start.
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