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Old 13-05-2015, 05:35   #31
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Re: Wisdom for New Cruisers

30 kts is not a storm, it is not even a full gale.

It is the apprehension that is the bother, as is visible in the OPís note. Like most things, it is not as bad as you had anticipated.

If you are going cruising (crossing oceans, or even making passages) as opposed to coastal cruising, you will experience 30 kts of wind from time to time. There are very few boats that will not handle 30 kts of wind. If you are going with it, it is actually fun. If it is coming from where you want to go, it may be easier to heave to and just wait it out. If you are in port, it makes more sense to stay there until it moderates.

Actually, what is worse is if you have had 30 kts for a while, and now you have less than ten ktsÖ seas are sloppy and you roll slat and bang.

It is all relative, if it has been blowing 40, you welcome 30.

Just deal with it when it happens, you will be happier with yourself.


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Old 13-05-2015, 13:14   #32
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Re: Wisdom for New Cruisers

I believe the answer comes down to a few more questions.
Is the 30kts and 9ft seas forward or aft of the beam where you're headed?
How much of a hurry are you in to get where you're going?
Is 30kts the norm there at this time of year, or are you likely to get better weather by waiting?

If the wind is coming from astern, consider it a blessing.

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Old 13-05-2015, 14:19   #33
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Re: Wisdom for New Cruisers

Originally Posted by Randyonr3 View Post
Know what you're getting yourself in for if possible...
I cant tell you how many anchorages or marinas I've dropped into where I see the Dreams of a Cruiser going down the drain due to the fact he or she didnt do their homework prior to the origional purchase and are now caught in "Limbo" where they cant go back and cant go forward.
And sometimes I really feel sorry for these people..

I ran across a couple in Santa Barbara California a year or two ago that sold all they had to go cruising, bought the boat and did the re-fit over a few years, and left the North West. They were now in their Mid 70s in age and have come to realize they are to old to handle the boat. So they were setting at anchor until the weather got bad and then they would go into the Marina, with only a little retirement comming in, they couldnt move on and couldnt go back, stuck ..
And I cant count the amount of folks with the dreams of cruising starting to dwinle as the overwhelming attention due the boat has taken over their lives.
So If I could give any wisdom to any newbe, it would be to stick one foot in at a time to test the waters before you jump in.

Hi Randyonr3,Curious post that struck me.Are you rolling economic situ into same bathtub with age/physical diminishment?
The "limbo" you write above-is that economic? Presumably,in that case those folks could sell their boat.No? And what was/is their desire to move onto ?

I suppose I'm trying to get to what your perspective is in the above regards.
Mine is that a certain economic wherewithal is required/needed in ALL aspects to the lives we have today in this society-we're all little economic units of the machine now !

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Old 13-05-2015, 15:28   #34
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So We're setting here, waiting out a little weather, A High preasure area is fighting with a Low and the winds are building 25 to 30 knots with seas 7 to 9 feet every 9 seconds. And we're tucked into a slip, nose to the wind, and secure.
So where is the Wisdom here.. Is it having the knowledge base to handle your boat in 30 knot seas with 7 foot wind waves, seas at 9 feet every 9 seconds or to set comfy for a couple days waiting for everything to pass.
Sure I can handle my boat in such conditions, but I'm not in such a hurry do do so today.

So, for those experanced in Cruising, what tip, or tips of wisdom would you pass on to t New Cruiser.

The statement that I made was to bring to mind that while cruising, I'd prefer to set and wait out conditions even though I have the knowledge and experience to handle such. Its the wisdom to make a choice.
Didnt expect people to dissect the passage. but it was fun to read.
By the way, we pulled out this morning, had a great sail down the coast to our next destination. The seas had flattened out, about 10 knots of breeze on our beam, and the smell of fresh baked banana nut bread coming from the galley.
Such a Life..............
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Old 13-05-2015, 16:21   #35
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Re: Wisdom for New Cruisers

As a professional pilot for 47 years, there is the old saying: " I would rather be on the ground wishing I were in the air then being in the air wishing I were on the ground". That could translate to: "I'd rather be in port wishing I were out sailing then out sailing wishing I were in port"! There are so many similarities between sailing and flying. If you look at a sail under way from above, it is the shape of an aircraft wing. The biggest similarity is: "never put yourself or your passengers in jeopardy by getting in a hurry, if you bump heads with mother nature, most likely she will win!" I'd rather be going 8 knots and enjoying life than going 400 knots wanting to go faster.
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Re: Wisdom for New Cruisers

I see I miss-interpreted the "Title". I agree with the concepts expressed after my post. I was just trying to suggest that my experience is that if you are new to something it is useful sometimes to push your personal envelope to gain experience. Of course considering weather to go, the "go/no go" analysis is always part of that pushing your envelope. Since the OP is an experienced sailor it was not really relent.

Good discussion on CF as usual.

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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson View Post
When the height of the waves = the period, stay in port.
There would be no boats sailing the Caribbean Sea using this rule!



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