Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 21-09-2016, 13:13   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nevada City. CA
Boat: Sceptre 41
Posts: 3,857
Images: 9
Re: Windlass only goes down

Hi Linda:

This is going to take a bit of thinking like an electron. If the down button works you know you have power. From that point I would trace the wires for the up button and clean all the contacts. That would be the first step. While I was there I would coat the connections with lanolin or equivalent. This is something that should be done annually though it almost never is done on a schedule but rather when it stops working. If this does not solve the problem then we will need to test the different components such as the solenoid and the switches etc. Please report back what you have found.
__________________
Fair Winds,

Charlie

Between us there was, as I have already said somewhere, the bond of the sea. Besides holding our hearts together through long periods of separation, it had the effect of making us tolerant of each other's yarns -- and even convictions. Heart of Darkness
Joseph Conrad
Charlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 13:27   #17
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Victoria BC
Boat: Cal 2-46'
Posts: 672
Re: Windlass only goes down

Push the button. Have someone listen and see if the solenoid clicks. If it does the problem is between the solo old and the windlass, if it does not then the problem is the solenoid or before. If you have voltage at the solenoid and it does not click then the solenoid has failed.
Nick


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Nick & John
Ground Tackle Marine Ltd
groundtackle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 13:42   #18
cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lake Ontario
Boat: Ontario 38 / Douglas 32 Mk II
Posts: 3,250
Re: Windlass only goes down

Quote:
Originally Posted by lindabarzini View Post
There are 2 buttons on the wired remote. The down button works fine. When I press the up button. Nothing happens. No sound. Nothing.
OK, so this sounds like an electrical issue.

No windlass should be installed to operate by "remote" only. If the remote battery or connector cable fails, or the remote gets lost or falls overboard, there is no way to operate the windlass electrically. Most windlasses have a manual method for operation, but with large anchors and heavy chain, this can get old fast. After all, you have an electric windlass.

I recommend that the breaker be in fairly easy access, so that in an emergency it can be manually tripped very easily to disconnect power from the windlass.

Though they can be a maintenance item, I recommend foot switches be installed and used for a number of reasons. (It is OK to also have a remote for certain conditions.)

I also recommend a wired up/down switch be installed at the helm to facilitate anchoring when single handing.

So depending on your electric windlass model, the actuator may be a separate electrical component, or integral to the windlass motor housing.

The first step is to check the integrity of all wiring connections between the wired remote or wireless remote controller and actuator. (The motor connections and brushes should be fine.)

It may be simply a loose or corroded connection.

If the actuator has an internal contact problem, tapping the actuator (with a non metallic striker) whether separate or integral may (temporarily) solve it. If this works, the actuator may be likely to fail again; it may be wise to get new one.

Somewhere in the system there is a likely a terminal with "up","down", and "common" (or something to that effect) electrical contacts. It may be possible to temporarily jumper the "up" and "common" contact. If the motor turns, it is likely the switching circuitry that is at fault. If the motor does not turn, it is likely the actuator.

If you are not really savvy with the windlass and/or electrical systems, it may be worthwhile to get someone who is, to troubleshoot and repair this for you.
ramblinrod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 14:16   #19
Moderator
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,195
Re: Windlass only goes down

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramblinrod View Post
OK, so this sounds like an electrical issue.

No windlass should be installed to operate by "remote" only. If the remote battery or connector cable fails, or the remote gets lost or falls overboard, there is no way to operate the windlass electrically. Most windlasses have a manual method for operation, but with large anchors and heavy chain, this can get old fast. After all, you have an electric windlass.

I recommend that the breaker be in fairly easy access, so that in an emergency it can be manually tripped very easily to disconnect power from the windlass.

Though they can be a maintenance item, I recommend foot switches be installed and used for a number of reasons. (It is OK to also have a remote for certain conditions.)

I also recommend a wired up/down switch be installed at the helm to facilitate anchoring when single handing.

So depending on your electric windlass model, the actuator may be a separate electrical component, or integral to the windlass motor housing.

The first step is to check the integrity of all wiring connections between the wired remote or wireless remote controller and actuator. (The motor connections and brushes should be fine.)

It may be simply a loose or corroded connection.

If the actuator has an internal contact problem, tapping the actuator (with a non metallic striker) whether separate or integral may (temporarily) solve it. If this works, the actuator may be likely to fail again; it may be wise to get new one.

Somewhere in the system there is a likely a terminal with "up","down", and "common" (or something to that effect) electrical contacts. It may be possible to temporarily jumper the "up" and "common" contact. If the motor turns, it is likely the switching circuitry that is at fault. If the motor does not turn, it is likely the actuator.

If you are not really savvy with the windlass and/or electrical systems, it may be worthwhile to get someone who is, to troubleshoot and repair this for you.
Linda, pay attention to this post! Excellent summary, excellent advice... especially the last sentence.

I don't usually go along with the "hire a pro" attitude, but from the nature of your questions it seems appropriate in this case.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II, lying Port Cygnet Tasmania once again.
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 14:22   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Oceanis 45
Posts: 47
Re: Windlass only goes down

We had the same issue but in reverse. Wouldn't go down but came up. Turned out our anchor solenoid was in the bottom of a sail locker and one of the wires was pulled off.... most likely from dropping fenders in it.
Myknjul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 14:52   #21
Registered User
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,398
Images: 69
Re: Windlass only goes down

Is the "remote" the 2 way rocker switch Lewmar supply? If it is, check the wires to it. I've had one of these come off, which produced the symptoms you describe. Make sure the spade connectors are clean and tight.
__________________
"You CANNOT be serious!"


John McEnroe
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-09-2016, 16:20   #22
Retired musician & 50T master
 
Symphony's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ct
Boat: Pisces 21
Posts: 698
Re: Windlass only goes down

I had this problem after winter storage.

the Lewmar contactor (solenoid) went bad on the down director and was unrepairable. it was only 3 seasons old too. bloody expensive to buy a new one but easy to troubleshoot and replace if you are small enough to get in your anchor locker
__________________
"In my experience travelers generally exaggerate the difficulties of the way." - Thoreau
Symphony is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
wind, windlass


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ship Icon Only Goes Sideways AnchorageGuy OpenCPN 7 05-12-2012 17:56
Yanmar SD20 Only Goes in Forward Carpe Ventus Propellers & Drive Systems 2 09-09-2012 05:31
Seawind Goes Down - Brisbane River ausaviator Multihull Sailboats 8 23-01-2011 11:54
My Perkins Prima engine only goes at 2000rpm Dave-Fethiye Engines and Propulsion Systems 16 24-03-2008 10:44
Sailboat goes down entering harbor charley Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 7 25-04-2007 14:28

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:34.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.