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Old 19-06-2016, 17:16   #61
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

I see there is an "alternative cruising'' scene out there.My suspicions are you would have to be hirsute and a lover of beans to join up.
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Old 19-06-2016, 17:26   #62
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

I just got back from one of my "patented" three day - two night on the hook" cruises which I tend to do weekly or bi-weekly. I am NOT an offshore cruiser, but enjoy the dialogs here on this forum and have for years. Always learning something new.

I am TORN between:

--- Who Cares?

--- They don't know what they're missing.

What the "next gen" might do, and how it potentially affects "us" is an unusual question.

Many times we hear about "crowded" anchorages. Gee, less people, less crowds, or YOGI was right: "Nobody goes there anymore 'cuz it's too crowded."

I believe that the courses we take in our own lives determines how and what we do. I am pleased to have been able to interact with so many of you who share our "passion" for sailing.

If I was into motor scooters, or motorbikes, or bikes, or kiting (not checks!), then I'd find a like-minded group of individuals to share my interests.

Like guitars and model railroading. I even found a fella on sbo.com who does model railroads and we had a great chat by phone. He taught me how to clean my old tracks. Wonderful.

What our kids will do is exactly what our parents thought about US: : "The most g-d-damned bunch of lazy bastards ever."


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Old 19-06-2016, 17:40   #63
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

What our kids will do is exactly what our parents thought about US: : "The most g-d-damned bunch of lazy bastards ever."


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My parents never owned a boat. They loved the mountain streams and the trout they held. My wife's parents owned a ski boat. I got into sailing because of my roommate years ago had a wind surfer. My kids will experience both sailing and motor boating. What they decide to do is entirely up to what they like. I can only give them the experience.....
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

I disagree with that entirely - I'm 28 and there are a lot of great boats out there for a good price. I was never a big saver but I wanted to do it so I did. I'm more or less thinking sailing won't be as popular simply because most everyone in my generation wants to have all the comforts of home not because of the price...


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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

The amout of derelict old boats out our way on moorings that are never serviced and I wouldn't blame any young person who took them and go
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The fact that most millennials don't seem to be interested in any physical nor intellectual activity.

Taking another selfie is not a sport. And posting nonsense on fb is not an intellectual activity.

For the nth time in human history we are learning that easy availability of food and entertainment makes us weak and dumb.

I think the next generation will spend most of their time in VR: having sex, drugs and violence.

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I think that same thing was said of the Hippie generation,
circa late 50s early 60s. It will work out.
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Old 20-06-2016, 08:14   #67
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

More likely than not, the same thing was uttered about every generation going back 10,000 years. More likely than not, it was "true" in some sense every time.
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Sailing will never see an end. A slump, given populations sure. BUT, in most places boat ownership is the higher it's ever been.
I believe there may be lots of boat ownership. The boat yards and marinas have plenty of boats. But nobody visits them. And a lot of them are simply rotting. On our dock (one of the more active) maybe 10% actually take their boats out. I boat in what used to be a sailing mecca, Annapolis MD. The horizon used to be white with sails. Not anymore.

I have kids 15 to 25. They are bored in 15 minutes. Just getting to the bay (about a half hour) was more than they could stand. Even out in the bay, moving at a nice clip, the one daughter was begging to go back. My son, "now what?". They could care less that changing the sail shape generated more and less speed through the water. Of course, being true suburbanites, they show little interest in anything mechanical.

My son didn't even get his driver's license until he was 21. I got mine at 16, as early as I could and bought my own car at 17. Also rebuilt a CL77 motorcycle from parts in boxes when I was 17. My Dad taught me how to fly while I was a teen. I hiked the Appalachian trail and canoed in the Boundary Waters of Canada.

Sure lots of kids still do these things, but its not something they flock to as people did when I was a kid. Times have changed. There are overcrowded anchorages in the Bahamas because of old farts like me. This too will pass. Young people don't appreciate slow paced activities that require a lot of manual work and mechanical knowledge. A waste of time for them.

Sad for me. I recognize my utopian youth was just an era and nothing more.
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The next generation is already going sailing.
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I believe there may be lots of boat ownership. The boat yards and marinas have plenty of boats. But nobody visits them. And a lot of them are simply rotting. On our dock (one of the more active) maybe 10% actually take their boats out. I boat in what used to be a sailing mecca, Annapolis MD. The horizon used to be white with sails. Not anymore.

I have kids 15 to 25. They are bored in 15 minutes. Just getting to the bay (about a half hour) was more than they could stand. Even out in the bay, moving at a nice clip, the one daughter was begging to go back. My son, "now what?". They could care less that changing the sail shape generated more and less speed through the water. Of course, being true suburbanites, they show little interest in anything mechanical.

My son didn't even get his driver's license until he was 21. I got mine at 16, as early as I could and bought my own car at 17. Also rebuilt a CL77 motorcycle from parts in boxes when I was 17. My Dad taught me how to fly while I was a teen. I hiked the Appalachian trail and canoed in the Boundary Waters of Canada.

Sure lots of kids still do these things, but its not something they flock to as people did when I was a kid. Times have changed. There are overcrowded anchorages in the Bahamas because of old farts like me. This too will pass. Young people don't appreciate slow paced activities that require a lot of manual work and mechanical knowledge. A waste of time for them.

Sad for me. I recognize my utopian youth was just an era and nothing more.
It takes a lot of work and ingenuity to not drive. Lots of planning too. I didnt drive until I was 34. In some ways I didnt drive because I liked the adventure! Not drivig is definitely a slow paced activity.

Its funny how every generation laments the laziness of the younger set. I heard it often growing up. My mom is a hiker, her view came because I didnt enjoy hiking too. My son, not a sailor, but he loves hiking!

I wonder if we dont short change ourselves by our expectations of our children. We tend to view the ways they are not like us as lacking something. Im not sure they lack anything but their parents approval.
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Its funny how every generation laments the laziness of the younger set. I heard it often growing up. My mom is a hiker, her view came because I didnt enjoy hiking too. My son, not a sailor, but he loves hiking!

I wonder if we dont short change ourselves by our expectations of our children. We tend to view the ways they are not like us as lacking something. Im not sure they lack anything but their parents approval.
Well said Every generation does the same. I seem to recall some research that suggests it is part of the older generation's fear of being left behind. Whatever the case, it seems to just be who we are.

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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

8 years ago I never knew there was such a thing as a cruising life, sailing that is!! I grew up on the water but considered a boat a thing for getting a feed of fish or some commercial purpose. My discovering sailing as a past time or as recreational fun, was by chance and now I am immersed in it.
The OP said there must be an app involved for a millennium to have interest, don't you think this has been addressed? there is now a multitude of apps created to assist with just about every aspect of sailing. Wind apps, tide apps, SBB weather apps ect.. Even chart plotters are now interactive touch screen high tech devices, fun to play with.
If there is one particular thing that may have brought sailing/cruising into the 21st century, "Youtube".
How many channels are there now of 20-30 year olds sailing around the world with GoPro's strapped to their head. They have even turned the cruising life into, it appears, a very lucrative business, think I read Patron pays 5k per video?. I would love for someone to pay me to live in the Caribbean!!!
Cruising has gone high tech and I believe will and has attracted the next generation, but As several post have said, our economic state may prevent the average guy/girl from doing so at some point.
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Re: Will the next generation still go sailing?

But ownership is not sailing. Is it.

Our marina. Over 500 sailing boats at the docks. 2 or 3 on the water on the weekend only, sailing. City population 500k

Where I grew up we had maybe ten sailing boats altogether. They all were out on the weekend and many on weekdays too. Village population 500.

People do not want to do anything that requires intellectual or physical effort. Swallow it.

Good news for us sailors, I think.

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