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Old 23-01-2013, 06:12   #16
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Re: Why don't you want to sell your boat?

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From a Broker's listing..........

I can see odor in this photo!!!
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Old 23-01-2013, 06:26   #17
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There are serious sellers out there, just like there are serious buyers. But the sellers who don't really want to sell seem to outnumber the serious sellers, just like the tire-kickers outnumber the serious buyers.

You can debate about how many photos, and of what, is "right." What amazes me is the number of ads that I see with really horrible quality photos--obviously taken with a very cheap phone. Or the ones that don't really show anything. Or the ones that show all of the junk and dirt. I recall one ad that made me think, "Are the dirty dishes included in the sales price?"

And then there was the ad, accompanied by one grainy photo shot from about 100 yards away, that said "Very good condition. Needs a lot of work." Say what!?!
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Old 23-01-2013, 06:38   #18
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Re: Why don't you want to sell your boat?

If you can't find a boat to buy at the price you want to pay complain about the ads. Maybe making it hard to buy a used boat prepares you for how hard it's going to be maintaining one.
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Re: Why don't you want to sell your boat?

When i was emailing brokers before i bought my boat , i found about 50 percent of them did not reply an i was no tyre kicker!
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When i was emailing brokers before i bought my boat , i found about 50 percent of them did not reply an i was no tyre kicker!
It's no excuse but if you're a tire kicker it's much easier to send out emails than it is to phone and talk to someone directly. I think some brokers don't take emails as seriously as a call.
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:29   #21
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I guess I am a tire kicker until I've made some contact, and gotten more details, or actually seen the boat. How else can I get it going?

Last week I looked at a bunch of boats with a broker. I emailed him back about one of them.I asked a question for the owner about two things.

He wrote back and told me we had not looked at any boats in that marina/town! I told him all about the boat, and the other three we had seen there.

No recollection, apology, reply with recognition...HUH?

Then he writes for me to make an offer! (Maybe I would, if he answered the questions i asked!)

I feel as though I would be enabling either a habit of using controlled or uncontrolled substances, or giving money needlessly away to the stupid! Who hires these people?
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I think some brokers don't take emails as seriously as a call.
That would be brokers who are stuck in the 1980s.
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:39   #23
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As someone who has just sold (and also bought) a boat, here are some observations about potential buyers:

#1. There are a lot of tire-kickers out there. As a seller, you want your tires kicked, but in my experience too many of these people were simply not serious.

#2. Too many buyers don't bother to do the most basic of research and homework; and that includes reading the sales ad. The number of times I had to respond to a question whose answer was clearly stated in the ad (a full website) became frustrating. I always answered, but sometimes suggested they read the website.

#3. I got to learn that distance did matter. It probably depends on where you are in the market, but for my old boat, I learned that someone emailing/calling from more than 1000km away was very unlikely to be serious.

#4. I agree about the state of the boat, and pictures. However, my experience was that buyers are all over the map with pics. Some wanted more, some wanted different, many didn't care (or were happy with what was presented). I would say it is impossible to anticipate all needs. I provided a number of pics of the kinds of things I would want to see. And I always tried to get others as requested.

#5. I always responded to every inquiry, but if it became obvious the person wasn't really serious, I would become less enthusiasitic. BTW, as a seller I got way too many scammer responses who seem to swarm like flies around any boat ad. I always gave people the benefit of the doubt at first, even if their spelling was terrible, and they wanted to buy the boat sight-unseen. "Oh, and I'll just send you a cheque larger than the asking price so you can pay my shipper. Oh, don't worry. It will be a certified cheque..."

#6. Attitude meant something to me. If someone came in with an "I'm doing you a favour" attitude. Or worse, if they started playing silly games with price, etc. I usually suggested they look elsewhere. There are a number of people who think they are negotiating whiz kids. You learn pretty quickly to spot these folks, and to not waste your time with them.
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I think you are the kind of boat seller that has a pulse. I would be happy to deal with someone like you, and the problems wouldn't come up. As a prospective buyer, I am not trying to waste anyone's time, and I am interested enough to see a boat, and if it generates interest, to pursue and purchase it.

Anytime you sell something, you have to go through stages of showing to people and not all would be qualified to buy, true that. I am not looking at boats I can't afford to buy; and I don't dink around with the price while asking questions, etc. Price is something to work on after I have already decided it's worth buying.

Yes, I am located as far away from an ocean as most anywhere on earth; but, I travel a lot, and now there are some boat owners in Texas, where I just visited, who because of their unwillingness to share details to me before my trip, lost an opportunity to get it seen and sold while I was there for three weeks looking around at other people's boats.

One of them was sitting right there with the for sale sign on it...the guy never responded even though I took time out to email while there, despite his original reluctance to tell me about it because I live too far away.

If it's about respect, and decency, I get that, and I am honorable on my end. On the other side, it looks pretty bad from here.
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There are serious sellers out there, just like there are serious buyers. But the sellers who don't really want to sell seem to outnumber the serious sellers, just like the tire-kickers outnumber the serious buyers.

You can debate about how many photos, and of what, is "right." What amazes me is the number of ads that I see with really horrible quality photos--obviously taken with a very cheap phone. Or the ones that don't really show anything. Or the ones that show all of the junk and dirt. I recall one ad that made me think, "Are the dirty dishes included in the sales price?"

And then there was the ad, accompanied by one grainy photo shot from about 100 yards away, that said "Very good condition. Needs a lot of work." Say what!?!
Yes Don--agree with all that for sure. Some of the photos are so small! You can't see anything. And blurry or pixelated, what that shows to me is that I wouldn't want to buy a boat from a person like that-if they can't get this stuff right, they didn't keep up the boat right either. I don't want an idiot's old boat!
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:47   #25
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YES! That is too funny!

Basically says it all.
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:48   #26
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Re: Why don't you want to sell your boat?

You should be able to show your boat with 10 good pics or less. I agree with the op 95 pics for a 40 foot sailboat is rediculous what is the point of photographing the galley from 7 different directions .I have seen someone photographing all the light fittings and 4 pictures of the anchor chain i just loose interest its pointless .The other thing that annoys me more is the person who puts in 7 pics of the outside of the boat and none of the inside Grrrrrr.....

The golden rule in marketing more is less, get ride of the junk out of your boat clean out the lockers all surfaces free of junk and make sure you are not standing in front of the mirror when you take a picture.
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:58   #27
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Re: Why don't you want to sell your boat?

Or the ads with 10 year old photos as the imprint on the photos explain.
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Old 23-01-2013, 08:19   #28
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When buying you get to kiss a lot of frogs.

Same when selling!
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If it's about respect, and decency, I get that, and I am honorable on my end.
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Anytime you sell something, you have to go through stages of showing to people and not all would be qualified to buy, true that. I am not looking at boats I can't afford to buy; and I don't dink around with the price while asking questions, etc. Price is something to work on after I have already decided it's worth buying.
We would have got along just great b/c of that Seahag. For me, this is the most important point -- for both sides. Basic respect, professionalism, and common courtesy in your dealings, whether you are the seller or the potential buyer, is/was vital to me.

As a buyer I researched tons of boats, kicked at a lot, dug deeper on many, viewed quite a few, and finally purchased the one we have now. I always -- ALWAYS -- did the basic research on a boat before firing off that first email to the seller. I don't think I was ever ignored, whether it was a personal sale or a broker. Perhaps it was b/c I demonstrated that I had done some work already, or perhaps I was just lucky. I don't know, but I did not experience this silent treatment you speak of.
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And now I just ran across a perfect example. This is the one and only photo in this advertisement. They think this is going to help sell the boat!?!

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