Originally Posted by Michaeloh59
So other than the time to rig/breakdown 5 min vs 15 min do you have any thoughts on sunfish vs Vagabond14? I.e. The sunfish is not a sloop
so I would assume one could learn more advanced sailing on the Vagabond14?
Note that these are example boats... to show that rigging
at the boat ramp
or beach can be fast.
Sunfish and similar
(there are a LOT of very similar boats) small Lateen rig boats make great intro to sailing boats, especially for youth on relatively smooth water
(smallish ponds and protected coves... Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts....)
Part of sailing these is flipping them... often. That's half the fun of a Sunfish. (especially for kids)
My username is referencing the fun of flipping Sunfish.
REALLY simple to get started and learn the basics with these.
If you sail a Sunfish (or similar) plan to get very wet.
Advanced/racing Sunfish add "cunningham" and outhaul
adjustments to the sail.
Laser is a bit in between. Sunfish, Laser and Vagabond are all fairly close in length. Laser is wider than Sunfish and Vagabond 14 is wider than Laser. As the boats get wider they get less prone to flipping, but they also are getting taller masts and more sail area. The taller mast
makes them easier to flip again and the larger sail area gives the wind
more power to flip it if you aren't careful.
So all 3 are expected to flip occasionally.
Vagabond 14 (pretty close to a Capri
14.2 in many ways) is decidedly more advanced in being a bigger boat with a fractional sloop
rig. But its still a good beginner boat because you can just ignore the jib
at first. Though its amazing how much more power you get from that little jib
when you start using it.
is super simple. Just as the Sunfish and Laser, one "mainsheet" for primary control of the mainsail
Laser usually adds a couple of sail trim adjustments "Vang" being the most important to learn about.
Then a "mast top sloop" where the jib goes all the way to the top of the mast
and is a larger percentage of total sail area would be even more advanced, but STILL could be sailed ignoring the jib for early practice.
You can start on almost anything... (some need more than one person no matter what you do to simplify it)
A mistake on a Sunfish usually means you go swimming a minute or two.
Flipping the Vagabond 14 without a masthead float means you need 3 people to get it back upright.
Everything you learn on the simpler boat applies to the more advanced boat.