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Old 09-11-2018, 07:17   #46
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Re: What the hell is "expedition cruising" and what's the difference?

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If you are sailing the Strait of Magellan and Patagonia you are expedition cruising...
GRP hulls can very well do it, though I hope you have insulation and a diesel heater...
I guess the main thing is to be able to be self sufficient, in water, energy and maintenance/repairs, thus you must have lots of spare parts and tools.
That applies for all ocean crossing liveaboard / cruising adventures, not specific for expedition.

according to Wiki:
an expedition is: An exploration, journey, or voyage undertaken by a group of people especially for discovery and scientific research.

So recreational cruising and tourist activities are not expeditions, regardless where you go and how you get there, if it is done for another purpose or for no purpose at all, sailing sport events and regattas around the globe are not expeditions either.
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Yes I think we have the core element right there, the purpose of the travel, more than any specific boat / equipment needs, location, weather etc all just ancillary.

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Re: What the hell is "expedition cruising" and what's the difference?

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according to Wiki:
an expedition is: An exploration, journey, or voyage undertaken by a group of people especially for discovery and scientific research.

So recreational cruising and tourist activities are not expeditions, regardless where you go and how you get there, if it is done for another purpose or for no purpose at all, sailing sport events and regattas around the globe are not expeditions either.
Language is just a river in motion, though, and it may look different from different viewpoints.

I remember from my childhood that an "expedition" (written exactly the same way in my native language Swedish, by the way!) was when we kids went just a bit farther into the woods because we had never been there before and it was mighty exciting and a bit scary as well, of course!

EDIT: Forgot to add that IMHO!
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Language is just a river in motion, though, and it may look different from different viewpoints.

I remember from my childhood that an "expedition" (written exactly the same way in my native language Swedish, by the way!) was when we kids went just a bit farther into the woods because we had never been there before and it was mighty exciting and a bit scary as well, of course!

EDIT: Forgot to add that IMHO!
Yes, kids explore the world around, built tree houses, run around with bow and arrows ... they legitimately do expeditions while playing - not necessary outside only. Even with Lego and Duplo toys they go on expeditions in the living room, make tents of a blanket and some chairs or fight galactic wars with millennium fighters or pirate ships. What a wonderful time without tablets and smartphones!
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Re: What the hell is "expedition cruising" and what's the difference?

A marketing technique, like; "all natural", "Made in (fill the blank)", "Carbon neutral" and "free with the purchase of..."

Oh and my favorite "Tactical" which means green, black, camo and had a stupid name like Skull crusher, The terrorizer and plunderer.

If you will pay more for an "expedition grade" inflatable, someone will call it that.
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A marketing technique... Oh and my favorite "Tactical" which means green, black, camo and had a stupid name like Skull crusher, The terrorizer and plunderer.
Can't agree with you more on this one.

I've always wondered why they didn't market the Thumper the Bunny Rabbit F150 truck. Or Thumbelina Tactical Scopes. I guess people wouldn't pay for such things.
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You're brilliant! Think of all the little girls we can sell Thumbelina sniper scopes to! They will be camo Pink and white.

And the Thumper Bunny "Special Edition" model.

You must be in marketing.
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If you are sailing the Strait of Magellan and Patagonia you are expedition cruising...
GRP hulls can very well do it, though I hope you have insulation and a diesel heater...
I guess the main thing is to be able to be self sufficient, in water, energy and maintenance/repairs, thus you must have lots of spare parts and tools.
Your points re warmth, insulation,tools and self sufficiency are valid... however..

I often go for a spin around Isla Gordon and have been known to pop over to the Falklands to go shopping ( you cannot buy baked beans, chutney or decent curry powder in Chile.....). Every year or so I go up to Montt or back down to Williams just because I can....

Its still a bit of an adventure - and for those that only pass this way but once it is a grand adventure - but to call it an expedition I think you need to be planning to scale Sarmiento (pic) or some unclaimed and un-named peak.....

Or maybe a birdwatching voyage out to Isla Noir or somesuch.....
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