Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 30-05-2016, 19:59   #31
DRS
Registered User
 
DRS's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver BC
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 351
Images: 7
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

I find it interesting that there are hundreds of millions of dollars worth of boats being trusted to guys that made 10 bucks a day assembling the electronics


Just saying..........
__________________

__________________
You can sail anywhere on the planet and never be more than 7 miles from land - it might be straight down, but its never more than seven miles
DRS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30-05-2016, 20:17   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cayuga Lake NY - or on the boat somewhere south of there
Boat: Caliber 40
Posts: 1,096
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

We absolutely need those rich cruisers to buy the new boats so people like me can buy them used a few years later. I sure as hell am not going to be the one to step up to the counter and write a quarter of a million dollar check for a new boat.
__________________

__________________
sck5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-05-2016, 23:43   #33
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,447
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellie View Post
LOL, another myth. Cheap and stinkers help cheap and stinkers for free. Good mechanics always charge.
Your myth does not gybe with my experience, Tellie. We've given and accepted help in the cruising community for thirty years, have never asked for any payment nor been offered any. This freely given advice and help has ranged from electronic through mechanical and rigging and shipwrighting right up to medical and dental aid.

Perhaps in your view we are all cheap and stinky... lets see, I remember one chap who was an ophthalmologist surgeon who also had a PHD in Physics. He was doing eye surgery in Mexico... for free. There was another boffin who offered help around the cruising fleet... he was awarded the Nobel in Physics a couple of years ago. And on a different scale, there have been a number of folks who did professional quality hair dressing for fellow sailors. And a fellow named Lowell North who would give advice and help relative to sail plans and shapes as he cruised through the South pacific. And a friendly Naval Architect who would advise on all things in his expertise... and so on.

I do remember one pro diesel mechanic who would consult freely with the fleet. He was pretty upfront, though, and said advice was free, but if he had to pick up a wrench, he would expect compensation. Fair enough...

This sharing of skills is one of the reasons that we've continued cruising so long. It is a good way to live in a fluid community!

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 00:03   #34
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,842
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bcripps View Post
I'm sitting here in Wendy's Bar in Luperon and a guy here is complaining because he can't find someone to change his engine oil!

Damn. I started cruising, thirty years ago, because I longed to be self-sufficient.

What happened?

I'll tell you: GPS!

Bry
At least he was trying to help the local community by employing someone to do a simple job.

He (if he can find someone) will be helping the locals more than the cruiser who sits in a bar slowly drinking one beer over an hour and then lingering on for another whilst they use the free internet and complain about the cruisers who want to inject money into the community.




__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 00:17   #35
Sponsoring Vendor

Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 99
Images: 5
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Yes, Chichime is packed, mostly because its orientation it makes a good place for coming storms from the E, it can blow very hard, I have seen more thatn 60 knots there and total chaos at the anchorage.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ D View Post
Yes, GPS changed a lot about cruising. So did watermakers that are actually reliable, good sailhandling gear, reliable electric windlasses, sailmail, easily accessed weather forecasting, good renewable charging... The list goes on and on.

While I'm not as old as some here (44 actually), I did do my first long distance cruise with my dad in the 80's. Magellan was just about to come out with the 3000, the first GPS on the recreational market. It cost 3 grand in '80's dollars too.

We didn't have one. We had a sat-nav that might produce an unreliable fix once or twice a day. No radar, either. We used a sextant, and a lot of DR. Most of the time, we didn't REALLY know where we were. This was fine most places, around reefs, it was not fun. Remember, even when the numbers of boats crossing the pacific were quite small, there were an awful lot of them going aground in places like the Tuamotus.

Yes, it was cool to be out there when there were far fewer boats. (Maybe these are the 'real cruisers' you speak of. In the San Blas, we saw 3-4 other boats there in a month, and the locals were delighted to see us. The whole village would turn out when we anchored. Last time we were there, we couldn't even find a place to anchor in Chichime, it was so stuffed with boats in there.

For my part, I'm thrilled for the cruising community that all these innovations have made the lifestyle more accessible/enjoyable for more people. Sure, some of them don't know as much as they should about looking after their boats, but they'll either stay close to services, or they'll learn to be more self sufficient. Or they'll realize they're in over their head and stick closer to home and boatyards.

But, are they any more or less 'real' as cruisers than those who are doing it more the old fashioned way? No, not really. Just different. There are still plenty of birds of the other feather out there too. They're just more often found off of the main tradewind cruising routes these days.

Maybe sail down to someplace like Ushuaia. You will find self-sufficiency in spades down there!

TJ
__________________
Catamaran Adventures San Blas
​​Crewed catamaran charters in San Blas: Paradise
San Blas Sailing Panama: +507 6155 0503
www.catamaranadventures.net
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
YesIsail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 08:27   #36
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
 
zeehag's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 17,767
Images: 56
Send a message via Yahoo to zeehag Send a message via Skype™ to zeehag
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

the real cruisers are still watching the boats of noobs drag, and are reanchoring em without anyone knowing, or so it seems.
funny how that works.
the noobs are in the bars swilling hooch and are oblivious of their predicament, as they have alll the latest fail anchor alarm stuff. funny how that works.
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 08:37   #37
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,575
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

I think "whatever happened to English?" when I read online forum postings.
__________________
Can't sleep? Read www.alchemy2009.blogspot.com for fast relief. Can't read? Avoid www.volumesofsalt.blogspot.com, because it's just personal reviews of sea books.
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 08:43   #38
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

I do my oil changes daily and I always send half the daily batch for lab test. It always comes 'clean' as I do not care to start the donkey. Now this is what we should aim at with maintenance.

I also catch my marlin by hand, skin it and slice it, then throw it overboard (real cruisers are eco-friendly). The last one was some 30ft long and over 2 tonnes displacement. It talked hebrew and sensed the True North by some ancient Maori methods.

I have mylar sails that are resistant to UV as much as dacron sails.

...

Real cruisers and their half real stories.

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 08:55   #39
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Currently cruising the eastern Caribbean
Boat: Lagoon 42, Minx
Posts: 33
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

And you know for certain that there isn't a physical or medical reason he cannot perform an oil change? Some engine and/or boat designers have obviously never actually had to change the oil on their designs.
__________________
singlespeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:00   #40
Registered User
 
CREX's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: T or C NM
Boat: Catalina C-27-Venture of Newport 23'
Posts: 78
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

So often I've paid someone to do a job and ended up correcting it. The last marina mechanic, just 6 years ago, wanted to actually pull the plug and drain the oil into my customers bilge, I was the captain of that boat thinking I was going to escape the dirtier tasks. WOW! Just dumb luck I was there when he arrived.

" Old sailors never die, they just get a little dinghy "

I tried posting the picture but don't get how to do it on this forum.
__________________
CREX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:11   #41
Registered User
 
SV Sailfish's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Mexico
Boat: Downeaster 38
Posts: 137
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bcripps View Post
I'm sitting here in Wendy's Bar in Luperon and a guy here is complaining because he can't find someone to change his engine oil!

Damn. I started cruising, thirty years ago, because I longed to be self-sufficient.

What happened?

I'll tell you: GPS! Bry
Ah... the well monied. We had a half million dollar sled pull into the fuel dock here yesterday. All aboard had matching polo shirts with the boat name and logo. Looked to be a family. Very spiffy indeed. Twenty something kid hops pff and I hear him tell dad he would top up the "gas". He did. Junior pumped almost 100 gallons of gas into his daddies' high end turbo diesel fuel tank. I just walked away grinning.

I change my own oil. And all else. Why? Not because I can't afford to pay someone, I can, but so I could learn all the boat systems aboard and how they work.
__________________
SV Sailfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:19   #42
Registered User
 
Cadence's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 6,057
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bcripps View Post
I'm sitting here in Wendy's Bar in Luperon and a guy here is complaining because he can't find someone to change his engine oil!

Damn. I started cruising, thirty years ago, because I longed to be self-sufficient.

What happened?

I'll tell you: GPS!

Bry
Maybe a lot of others in the bar were snickering under their breath at his complaint.

I can't make the connection between motor oil and GPS?
__________________
Cadence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:26   #43
Moderator
 
Paul Elliott's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,865
Images: 4
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV Sailfish View Post
Ah... the well monied. We had a half million dollar sled pull into the fuel dock here yesterday. All aboard had matching polo shirts with the boat name and logo. Looked to be a family. Very spiffy indeed. Twenty something kid hops pff and I hear him tell dad he would top up the "gas". He did. Junior pumped almost 100 gallons of gas into his daddies' high end turbo diesel fuel tank. I just walked away grinning.

I change my own oil. And all else. Why? Not because I can't afford to pay someone, I can, but so I could learn all the boat systems aboard and how they work.
Did you at least mention this gas-in-the-diesel-tank to someone on the "half million dollar sled"?

I'm serious.
__________________
Paul Elliott, S/V VALIS - Pacific Seacraft 44 #16 - Friday Harbor, WA
www.sailvalis.com
Paul Elliott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:39   #44
Registered User
 
hoppy's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Posts: 2,842
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Elliott View Post
Did you at least mention this gas-in-the-diesel-tank to someone on the "half million dollar sled"?

I'm serious.
Nothing worse than someones who's jealousy, envy and hatred of people who are doing better than themselves lets it get in the way of doing the right thing
__________________
S/Y Jessabbé http://www.jessabbe.com/
hoppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2016, 09:46   #45
Registered User
 
SV Sailfish's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Mexico
Boat: Downeaster 38
Posts: 137
Re: What ever happen to the REAL cruisers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Elliott View Post
Did you at least mention this gas-in-the-diesel-tank to someone on the "half million dollar sled"?

I'm serious.
Yes... I did. I told the fuel dock attendant and also the kid pumping. He just looked at me like I was an idiot and never said a word. So... that's when I just walked away shaking my head.

The boat was an Amel 54.
__________________

__________________
SV Sailfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruise, cruiser

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Real Crew with Real Experience nryder64 Great Lakes 1 17-10-2015 20:09
Crew Wanted: Would you like to be Real Crew on a Real Tallship? ryon Crew Archives 0 19-02-2014 16:57
Crew Wanted: Would you like to be Real Crew on a Real Tallship? (Southern California) ryon Crew Archives 2 18-02-2013 09:22
A Day Clock...? Good for the real cruisers CSY Man Marine Electronics 25 11-07-2007 01:10
Who Says This Wouldn't Ever Happen? CaptainK The Sailor's Confessional 1 12-03-2006 18:13



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:01.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.