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Old 11-08-2016, 05:52   #1
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What do you make of this

I considering buying a 1976 Catalina 27. On the first pass looking at the boat I noticed this. I understand that Catalina had a problem with some of the spreaders on the early boats an offer a redesigned spreader base. I'm assuming this is a fix to the spreader problem. The current owner has only owned the boat for 3 yrs and assumed it was stock & never had any issues with it. BTW they upgraded to a newer and larger boat. How much would this sort of repair affect the price. The patch wraps both sides of the mast.Click image for larger version

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Old 11-08-2016, 06:33   #2
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Re: What do you make of this

there is a forsale catalina 27 here that had a break in mast in similar area and was sleeved. now it is excellent--sails as it used to sail and all is well---just stronger.
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Call Catalina and they will tell you if it is a stock fix. Grant.
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Re: What do you make of this

Knock the cost of a new mast off the selling price.
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Knock the cost of a new mast off the selling price.
You are probably right, but be forwarned a new mast is probably worth more than the boat is used.
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Re: What do you make of this

It's likely a good thing actually. Were talking a $3-5k boat here right? I've turned down a free Cat 27 with diesel after not taking it at $3k. Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Re: What do you make of this

I wouldn't own a boat with a Kluge like that sticking up in the air.
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Re: What do you make of this

I think I would want to take a careful look at it, and also look at the deck for any evidence of damage to the chainplates. Examine the mast footing carefully too, for any evidence that things came a tumbling down at some point in the past. Also, note how it is fastened. Did they use stainless sheet metal screws? Is there any corrosion? You can examine it up close with a video camera hoisted up on a halyard, or be daring and use the bosun's chair.

As to cosmetics, wow, that could be fun. Paint it a different color like white or red or black and it becomes a feature, not a blemish!
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That sleeve actually is probably way stronger than just having the spreaders attached with a small pipe fitting like they use to do, and a lot of other boats do. See nothing wrong with that, and in fact it should add to the value of the boat. It also distributes the loading over a wider area of the mast. Go for it.
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I'm with Reed, once I inspected how the repair was done, if done correctly it's a good thing, bodged up, not so much
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Re: What do you make of this

It'd be nice to see it up close but I'd guess this was done in response to weakness and/or corrosion around old spreaders and not a repair of a break.
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Re: What do you make of this

Looks OK except the spreaders appear straight out rather than perpendicular to the shrouds.
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It'd be nice to see it up close but I'd guess this was done in response to weakness and/or corrosion around old spreaders and not a repair of a break.
Yeah, might go either way. I'd be very interested to confirm issues like dissimilar metal fasteners (rivets and bolts) and, if so, Tefgel, Duralac or nylon bushing separation of same.

DONE RIGHT, there's nothing wrong with a sleeved mast, save that it puts a few more pounds aloft, but it's not a deal-breaker in a cheap-ass boat, and in fact (see "done right"), it's stronger than factory being in essence a reinforcement of the column.
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My 76' Cat 27 does not have the wrap-around. Looking at your picture, it looks like the repair has been there a long while. If the price is right, buy the boat and sail it. I'm sure you don't plan any trans-Atlantic crossings.

The C-27 is a nice boat. Forgiving and easy to sail, standing head room, nice layout, LOTS of available parts, both new and used. They made over 6600 of these things. Need a mast, look on eBay or inquire at the boat yards. People part these out every day. You can get almost new sails for cheap. Hook into the catalina27.org website for more specific questions.
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...in fact it should add to the value of the boat...
Nonsense.
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