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Old 22-11-2007, 21:38   #1
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Very cool video

I was going to post this in the Storm Management thread.

Fasten your seatbelts folks, it's going to be a ride!




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Old 22-11-2007, 21:53   #2
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Wonder why they have so much headsail up? That thing is almost out of control.
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Old 22-11-2007, 22:48   #3
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It needs MORE sail up (reefed main) and a course of a broad reach to generate more boat speed, thus more steerage. He's hardly moving and the waves are having their way with the boat.

That's not a real storm; I've been in bigger stuff than that, and I'm sure lots more of us have as well.

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Old 22-11-2007, 23:12   #4
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Yeah! It's about like crossing the Strait of Georgia in B.C., Canada. The worse part was I had to quarter the waves to get across, on the second reef-main only. A summer SoEaster. At least I was on a close reach.

Thank you hydraulic steering!
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According to the title of the video, that's a storm with winds of at least 64 Knots.
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Old 23-11-2007, 03:35   #6
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Looks like they could benefit from a drogue. I don't see enough spindrift to indicate 64 kts of wind. Maybe the video was shot during a period of calmer conditions.

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Old 23-11-2007, 04:00   #7
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If that was 64 knots the jib would be in shreds. I agree with senormechanico, a reefed main and a storm jib.
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Nice video. But I have a hard time seeing 64 knots of wind. My initial thought was that the boat was out of control b/c it didn't have enough power.
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Old 23-11-2007, 08:28   #9
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I agree with the other posts. This isn't 64 knots at all... maybe at some point that day there was a single GUST to 64kts, but this isn't 64.

The helmsman/woman doesn't appear to be taking control of the boat either. There is a lot of over-correciton going on and they don't appear to have any method as to the orientation of the boat to the following waves.

This lack of a repeatable method of taking on the following waves really looks like it's due to a lack of steerage - probably from the overpowered headsail and lacking of any other sail up to provide balanced steering and possible low boat speed.

Looks kind of fun though! Not a scary day out.
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Maybe they were trying to hove-to but didn't know how.
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They were obviously running before the wind and from the tell-tails it looks like there was little wind to speak of. It was just a rough sea. They were making little headway. I think I would have had the main up, towing a drogue.

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My initial thought was that the boat was out of control b/c it didn't have enough power.
Did you noticed how it broached (went abeam) in front of the camera
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Looks like one heck of a rush to me! I dont think I would know what to do in that except crank the motor and try to kinda ride them latterally.
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a) that's not 64 knots of wind.
b) that guy needs to learn about sail "balance".
c) I would take conditions like that pretty seriously. If it gets worse, you're in a real no-kidding-kick-your-ass-storm.
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Someone does not know what they are doing. Either put out a drogue or a little more sail to get some steerage. I would be more tempted to use a drogue and just take a wait it out attitude rather than arm wrestling the helm for hours and hours.
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That would be a tough boat to sail in those conditions. Its an old 12 meter with a full keel and rudder attached to the keel. It also looks like a very short wave period. Go too fast and your gonna poke your nose in it. If they tow a drouge the loads on the steering gear may be beyond what it can take.
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