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Gun - NO 92 57.50%
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Old 21-12-2010, 18:01   #31
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I think a couple of these (bow and stern) should do the trick. Ayyah!!
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Well, up here mostly for bear protection and hunting during the season (about a quarter of the year). And I keep them in my house when I'm not onboard.

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FWIW, flare guns only work in the movies. They don't use real flare guns either. No muzzle velocity and too much mass and it's all just flare. They tend to bounce off the target except in the movies when they lift the bad guy off the deck and toss him into the drink as it burns a hole in his chest. A flare is still subject to gravity at least on this planet 32 ft / second / second. A horrible weapon and barely a decent way to call for help.

A vhf has a longer range. The mic on the end of the cord could beat someone to death though a Navy 12 gauge isn't bad as a club. Never shoot a flare inside a cabin. They are for outdoor use exclusively. Using them for other than their expressly stated purpose does void the warranty.
Don't want to argue the function but mine has been bored and relined with a 4140 steel sleeve and has been tested on targets 10' away with a 2 ft. spray pattern with 1 oz of #3 shot & half load of powder. In the old days we would fill the black powder shotguns with rock salt to run off the neighbors dogs from the hen houses.

But No! I wouldn't use a flare.
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deck cleaner

ooo look i found another one this is for deck cleaning ,small rodents etc
issued by the french police in more peaceful times.
DELMARRY eat yr heart out this one has 2 barrels
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don't anchor near boats with US flags.... might just be these guys...

I wonder how different the poll would be if either restricted to, or excluding, my fellow USAers.

But I have to admit that so far the poll results are unexpected.
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No guns just tools that are actually needed.
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But I have to admit that so far the poll results are unexpected.
Why what's unexpected . This is a mainly US centric forum. Run the poll on say ybw.com and seethe results.

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The day after 9/11 I took off with a friend (ex master sargeant) on my then, yearly San Juan trip. We had approximately 5000 rounds and half dozen long guns, just in case the natives got attacked again...didn't happen. Always go to Canada now, hence no need for guns, keep them locked up at home.
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hey dave we are only winding up the seppos/ colonials,you have given us some really good posts appreciate your input and frankly the world is not going to change that much in our life times but we do appreciate your point of view.
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If that Dave is me then shucks thanks. I'm a big gun owner hunting sporting etc. Just I have no truck with the " personal protection" argument I've seen too many cases of people hurt over it.

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I think more people on this forum need to worry about dying from heart disease or liver damage than pirates. You can tell a lot about someone by the risks they entertain and the ones they ignore.
As someone who will likely spend 95% of my time cruising in USA waters, it's not the pirates that I'm concerned about. Have had my house, boat, and truck broken into, all on different occasions. It's well know the boats are regular targets for thief's to steal from. I have insurance to replace the items that some drug addict may steel from my boat to pawn for his next fix. No amount of insurance will replace my family. Don't understand why people see a difference protecting my family in my home versus my family sleeping on my boat at a marina.

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agree 100%,even seen people shoot themselves,some by accident some on purpose.
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incidently this post seems to be getting marginalised.
THIS IS A SURVEY,NOT A DISCUSSION.
please post pictures of weapons if you must and a vote.
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Ted, from my perspective the argument isn't about boats versus home. I own guns but I live in a country that manifestly forbids their use as " personal" protection. They only have sporting uses. It would never occur to me to use them in the confines of my family home and in practice removing them from a safe removing trigger locks loading them would make it a practical impossibility in most cases.

As to a boat I can see no practical use. Other then scaring away people who would probably run once I appeared anyway. But I will admit this is a very non US based opinion. Equally the practicalities of cruising with firearms outside the US means that in reality it's virtually impractical to do so ( and remain within the law)

I also have been subjected to crime , house broken into three times and two of my cars over the years were stolen and burnt out not to mention several smashed windows

This isn't a pro/ Anti " bear arms" issue it's perspective that armed untrained civilians ( ie untrained in combat) are more a danger to themselves then anyone else . Very few people can engage in any sort of a firefight or reliably mortally wound someone. If it happens it's usually luck unfortunately more often it's unlucky.

As I say it's a practicality issue not an ideology one.

We must be getting closer to a thread ban every minute now

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