Originally Posted by Ethereal
I've also come across this design (Pavel Shaposhnikov Schooner) and am very interested in building one.
The specs look all good. Question now is are these guys for real ?
Reading through the comments on this forum I picked out the "non refundable deposit" etc. This is a big red alert and smells dodgy. . . .
Personal opinion based on years in the business - - There is nothing to indicate that the Ukrainian operation is not
legitimate but also there is little or no
evidence that it is. It is more likely that it is legitimate. If the operation was in Nigeria then I would say it is highly likely it is illegitimate.
- - I have seen custom boats built from yards in the Baltic
States and elsewhere and although they look good - when you dig under the floorboards and below the paint
you will find a strange assortment of highly unusual, non-marine type materials being used.
- - Since the "market" for private recreational vessels is extremely small in these areas of the world the expertise and access to modern marine-rated materials is very limited. Which is probably why the operation wants a "non-refundable" deposit so they can order and pay for the materials to be shipped into the country from Europe
or someplace else where they exist.
- - Second, a major problem is supervision of the building by a knowledgeable "manager" who is working for you. Be it Trinidad, Florida
, Ukraine, etc. around the world the yards use "day-laborers" or in any case workers who are more experienced in building local fishing
boats than private recreational yachts. Since these local boats don't cross oceans, the standards of construction are quite different. So I would suggest that you would personally need to visit the place, check out their work, their equipment
and their workmanship. Then you would have to have an experienced marine
manager live there while the boat is being built.
- - I would then say you will have a good boat that you would be satisfied with - but - you will probably spent more money
than if you had the work done in South Africa
or USA or other major mainline recreational boat building country.
- - In less that one year after the boat I saw built in the Baltic
States got to the USA - steel
boat- they were chopping it up and selling the steel
to a scrap yard. So the guy may have saved a third or so on the money
to build the boat, but it lost
it all in the end.