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02-11-2013, 15:22
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
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traveler winch?
where would i get a rebuild kit? i have never even seen one of these outside my boat.
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02-11-2013, 15:59
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Marine Service Provider
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Location: New Orleans
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Re: traveler winch?
Scoobert,
I can't tell from the pictures what type of winch it is, or the size, it may be easier to just buy a pair of small non-self tailing winches anyway. Frankly these small winches are so inexpensive it really isn't worth trying to rebuild them if something is really wrong with them anyway.
Depending on size I have seen some smaller single speed winches for ~$100 a pair.
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02-11-2013, 16:06
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
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Re: traveler winch?
is that what everyone uses now?
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02-11-2013, 16:10
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Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
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Re: traveler winch?
I haven't needed to use a winch on my traveler control lines. EVER.
If you have the right sheaves (many boats came with 3:1, most of us have improved to 6:1.
In most cases, cruising or racing, one can drop the traveler before tacking, thus: no work, no need for a traveler line winch.
If, indeed, this is what you're picturing. All we can see, scoobert, is the top of winch. We have no clue what it connects to or how the lines work for your setup. Sorry if we don't know your boat as well as you do from the limited info you've provided.
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02-11-2013, 16:20
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
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Re: traveler winch?
here is the best photo i have of the setup, i can take a better one tomorrow.
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02-11-2013, 16:24
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Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
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Re: traveler winch?
Scoobert,
I think it has worked onto its face these letters "ownunde" From this, I guess it might have been made by someone called, or it part of a line called downunder, as is Australia.
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02-11-2013, 16:27
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
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Re: traveler winch?
i can make out england and sidewinder.
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02-11-2013, 16:37
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Re: traveler winch?
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02-11-2013, 16:44
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
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Re: traveler winch?
if google worked, i would not have posted it. i dont even know 100% sure what it is called.
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03-11-2013, 09:01
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Join Date: May 2008
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Re: traveler winch?
So Scoobert, what is wrong with it? Stiff to turn, completely frozen up, pawls stuck??? Can you get it apart? And so on...
"Rebuild kits" are more for carburetors than winches IME. One seldom needs to do more than clean out old grease and crud, possibly replace pawls and/or pawl springs and re-grease... no matter what the brand name is.
Give us more info and perhaps we can help.
Jim
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03-11-2013, 09:15
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
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Re: traveler winch?
Its loose, so that the lock does not always engage, or stay engaged.
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03-11-2013, 09:17
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Re: traveler winch?
Did it come as part of the original rigging? If so you might want to contact Tayana>>> TtayanaWorld
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03-11-2013, 09:24
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Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: traveler winch?
I would disassemble and see what's going on. Probably needs a good cleaning and old hard grease removed. WOrst case often a bearing.
I have to agree about traveler winches.... never needed one up to 47 foot boat... but you have to setup your traveler with 4 part or more purchase....
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03-11-2013, 09:29
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
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Re: traveler winch?
Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobert
Its loose, so that the lock does not always engage, or stay engaged.
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Well, that isn't a very good description, but I think that you mean that the pawls, or whatever mechanism is used to keep the drum from rotating fail to engage some of the time.
IF that is the case, it is likely that simply disassembling the winch (mostly just finding out how to lift the drum off of the spindle) will reveal the pawls. Then cleaning them up and lubricating them (use light machine oil here, not grease) will cure your problem.
I imagine that the winch is set up to allow selection of CW or CCW rotation, and that selection mechanism should also be lubed. It looks like the winch is direct drive so no gears will be involved.
In the long run, it may be that it is not repairable. As others have said, most vessels of your size utilize a pair of small winches to control the traveler. We use a pair of Barient 24's and a three ne tackle on ours... ~600 sq ft mainsail. We use the traveler a lot and would not want to sail without a similar degree of control.
Cheers,
Jim
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