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Old 20-07-2015, 04:51   #16
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Re: Travel time from Tortola to Azores??

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Thanks!
One of our biggest concerns is that he is making this crossing alone. But he does have a great deal of experience.
Him crossing alone is nothing to do with you or family. If he is, and without Sat phone or AIS that's his problem, not yours.

Yes, he should have arrived in the Azores by now if he had perfect weather. But this year it has not been. There has been more headwinds than usual... or there were when I was at sea the week earlier.

He would not be past any reasonably set overdue date which would be about 50 days for that trip.
I dont think there has been much bad weather out there since he left.
further, if he lost wind its too far to motor. Remember the Azores High can give a huge area of calms to the south - the Horse Latitudes.
Or he may of gone straight past the Azores... there's no need to stop in. If he were having to deviate a few hundred miles to go to the Azores he may have well decided, as I would, to go straight to Gibralter.

a mute point as he could not be found by Search and Rescue now anyway. Where would anyone look?

So people who go to sea without Sat Phones or Ais have no wish to be found... HF Radio is a WAFTAM as there are no nets out there, especially in hurricane season.

So you can do nothing, just wait and hope, like centuries of families have had to when men go to sea.

A Jongurt boat should be fine... but it will be slow as its steel.

BTW you don't know when he left Tortola. You only know when he said he was going to leave.

I am sorry that you are in this weird predicament where you feel helpless. I hope he sails into port and you can chastise him for not taking a sat phone.

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Old 20-07-2015, 05:20   #17
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Thanks for this information. I will pass your comments along to his son.
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Re: Travel time from Tortola to Azores??

That is a large vessel to single hand, and if there has been a failure of the electrical system (not all that unusual) he may be without an autopilot, SSB, AIS, radar, main engine, etc. That would make for a potentialy very slow passage. Makeshift self steering is difficult on a 40 ton vessel, and everyone has to sleep. If he was motoring in the high, and everything packed up, it could take him a long time to work his way back to good sailing winds. I am speculating, (like everyone else), but a vessel drifting into an anchorage a month late is not that rare. A boat that size should carry ample water, so most failures would not justify using the EPIRB. I think it is much too early to worry, and worrying wont change anything at all. He will probably have good Sea Stories to tell when he arrives at some port. Best of Luck, _____Grant.
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I hope this forum can help me. I have a friend who left Tortola on Sat. June 13 on a 40 ton steel hulled 20m Jongert ketch bound for Azores and then on to Greece. He does not have a Sat phone. Based on the collective knowledge of this forum, how long would it realistically take to sail from Tortola to Azores during this period. I'm not a sailor or familiar with prevailing winds etc during this time of the year. He has been at sea for 36 days as of today. Thanks for any information you can provide.
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I did the passage few years ago in a 98ft Jonghert in 12 days then another 11 days to Gibraltar.
Should be in Greece by now depending on time out for Crew recreation.
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Thanks to all who have responded. We will continue to wait. Appears he is probably running farther behind schedule than we first thought.
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Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry. My friend arrived in Azores yesterday afternoon after 40 days at sea alone and no contact. As was pointed out by some of your replies, he was at the mercy of the Azore Highs with little wind. He has been properly chastised in not having a Sat Phone! Thanks again!
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Awesome! Another useful item us a spot tracker. Then you can see where he is at all times!
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Awesome news ! Thank-you for letting us know....
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Great news indeed.
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Capthondo, If you can, please let us know what type of problem caused the long delay. Engine, electrical, rigging, bad fuel, ???? There is always something to learn from a difficult passage. Under normal conditions, a 60 foot boat would have enough fuel to motor out of the High, so I am assuming some kind of problem. I am very glad to hear he arrived. Grant.
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I'm glad your friend has arrived safely.

Without carrying the full cost of a satphone, there are several inexpensive satellite tracking options that can give family and friends peace of mind.
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Re: Travel time from Tortola to Azores??

So, just lack of wind? Azores High, El Nino year.
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A combination of lack of wind, Azores High, and a mechanical problem with his starter. He is currently waiting for repair parts from Portugal before heading on to Gibraltar.
I've never been to Azores so I have no idea what it's like there. Are there places to purchase a SPOT device or some other satellite tracking devices as mentioned?
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I've never been to Azores so I have no idea what it's like there. Are there places to purchase a SPOT device or some other satellite tracking devices as mentioned?
Be very wary of that sort of stuff.
A satellite phone with data cable is good but these things take investigation and setting up. He is over the slow bit now so provided he leaves the Azores this month he should be fine.
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Yes. He is leaving within next 2-3 days.
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