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Old 31-10-2013, 07:24   #226
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL

sailmonkey,

All this is just an indication of how prepared some folks are when they decide to go on a voyage. It might sound harsh but some don't even know the basics of navigation.
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sailmonkey, All this is just an indication of how prepared some folks are when they decide to go on a voyage. It might sound harsh but some don't even know the basics of navigation.
I know, I've seen it before.....but I can still try! Besides I'm young enough to not worry about my blood pressure.
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Scoobert - What is your hull speed?
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Oh and I just realized that Scoobert wants to go from NY to Tampa - not to the east coast of Florida but all the way through the Keys to Tampa! We went very slowly because we had our family with us including a 4 month old and 2 year old but we took 10 days to day cruise from Tampa to Fort Lauderdale. Then it was 7 or 8 days with a professional captain to bring the boat from Fort Lauderdale straight to NY (fully offshore). There is NO way to do this in a sailboat in 5 days. Absolutely physically impossible.
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How in the hell do you figure nautical miles are measured in MPH? 1 knot is 1 NM/HR.

Either way if you can pull off consistent 240 mile 24 hour runs for 5 days I'll eat a shoe.
Its about 1100 statute miles. I am measuring distance, and gps speed.
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There is NO way to do this in a sailboat in 5 days. Absolutely physically impossible.
I think the Maltese Falcon could pull it off motor sailing.

Scoobert, do you really own the Maltese falcon?
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Oh and I just realized that Scoobert wants to go from NY to Tampa - not to the east coast of Florida but all the way through the Keys to Tampa! We went very slowly because we had our family with us including a 4 month old and 2 year old but we took 10 days to day cruise from Tampa to Fort Lauderdale. Then it was 7 or 8 days with a professional captain to bring the boat from Fort Lauderdale straight to NY (fully offshore). There is NO way to do this in a sailboat in 5 days. Absolutely physically impossible.
5days is the nyc to fl leg, not the trip round the keys
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5days is the nyc to fl leg, not the trip round the keys
Still - like I said - professional crew on a 42 foot sail from Fort Lauderdale to NY (so going WITH the Stream) took 7-8 days.

Again - what is your hull speed?
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Its about 1100 statute miles. I am measuring distance, and gps speed.
GPS speed = a calculation based on distance between fixes/time. It is unit less until you tell re gps what units to use, NM, KM, SM.

Either way what you're saying is you'll average 10 units 24 hours a day for 5 days.

Impossible without a storm up your bumm for the week. And I thought you wanted to go easy on your rig!!!
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Still - like I said - professional crew on a 42 foot sail from Fort Lauderdale to NY (so going WITH the Stream) took 7-8 days.

Again - what is your hull speed?
I have not calculated it. I was at 8gps mph over ground my second day sailing, ever. I didnt understand trim then either.
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I have not calculated it. I was at 8gps mph over ground my second day sailing, ever. I didnt understand trim then either.
That's wonderful. We've hit 14 overground but that doesn't mean that we ever plan over 10 mph for travel. Realistically, we push for 7 on average and if we can eek out a bit more than that, we're golden.

My husband reminded me how happy the captain and crew of our delivery were when they had an over 200 mile day on ONE day of the delivery. That's a professional crew who DO know sail trim.
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL

Scoobert, wise and experienced sailors talk about the duration of a passage after reaching port, not before leaving.

I remember when another CF newbie was talking about his forthcoming voyage from Fiji to Oz, and calculating on a basis of 10 knot speeds because he was in a speedy catamaran. Didn't work for him, won't work for you. Please listen to folks who actually do passages in boats not unlike yours. Please also leave room in your plans for a much slower voyage than expected.

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I have not calculated it. I was at 8gps mph over ground my second day sailing, ever. I didnt understand trim then either.
I've hit 9.1 once in my little boat.

I plan passages at 4.5, if we're early then we're early, but I've found that we still average 4.5 passage after passage.
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL

I've read this thread with amazement… CHARDONNAY, with her 49' waterline and 78' main mast and a ton of sail, barely averages 200 miles per day in trade wind conditions… into the Stream, we'd figure 170 MAX and average about 150.

And again, we like to think we know what we're doing!!
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Please also leave room in your plans for a much slower voyage than expected.

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I told my crew member 8-10 days. We have food, enough for 90 days. 250 gallons of water. 200 12 oz bottles of water. I have to work in 30 days. So as long as we hit tampa in less then a month....
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