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Old 03-07-2013, 11:59   #1
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Transatlantic Without Own Boat

I have a dream to sail transatlantic as a skipper. I am ready to spend
some money (let say $10K) but I can not buy and equip boat to the required level.
Is it possible to rent a boat or some other way to do it?
I will be glad for any suggestions.
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What equipment are we talking...
All you need is a soundish boat with decent motor and sails... a laptop CP and HH GPS back up.. a tiller/wheel pilot and your good to go... lotsa possibles out there for less than $10K..
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If you waived that $10k at a delivery Skipper he might be prepared to take a back seat as crew whilst you do the Skippering (at least until he thinks you are gonna kill him!).
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I would feel comfortable on something about 40 feet. I also not sure that I can have sound boat, with sails in good condition, good shrouds, serviced motor etc for this money...
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Than you. I didn't considered this way - it might be good and even safer idea.
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What's this 40+ft obsession most folk seem to have...
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What's this 40+ft obsession most folk seem to have...
The US marketing machine! they have a way of colluding to alter minds into emptying your pockets into their clients pockets.
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Old 03-07-2013, 22:18   #9
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What's this 40+ft obsession most folk seem to have...
I have several considerations. I think I need 4 people crew for steering and having some time to rest. It mean there is a need for 2 cabins at least.
I am planning to have supplies for 3 month (to be on safe side) and it will be about 500 kilograms of water only. With all spare parts and food it will be more. I do want boat for which such additional weight will not be too much load on rigging.
One month travel is not easy on people and having a bit of space helps.
I also read that 40 feet is a size considered safe for Atlantic.
In the same time - i am not that experienced in offshore sailing (although have some) and bigger boat will be a bit more forgiving to me...
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The US marketing machine! they have a way of colluding to alter minds into emptying your pockets into their clients pockets.
May be. I would ask - what is safer? 40 feet AWB or 30 feet full keel, old style heavy displacement boat?
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I have several considerations. I think I need 4 people crew for steering and having some time to rest. It mean there is a need for 2 cabins at least.
I am planning to have supplies for 3 month (to be on safe side) and it will be about 500 kilograms of water only. With all spare parts and food it will be more. I do want boat for which such additional weight will not be too much load on rigging.
One month travel is not easy on people and having a bit of space helps.
I also read that 40 feet is a size considered safe for Atlantic.
In the same time - i am not that experienced in offshore sailing (although have some) and bigger boat will be a bit more forgiving to me...
That's a bit like saying "I saw it on TV so it must be true".... sail a little and when you have an idea come back...
Man... so many Wiki Sailors...
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I have several considerations. I think I need 4 people crew for steering and having some time to rest. It mean there is a need for 2 cabins at least.
I am planning to have supplies for 3 month (to be on safe side) and it will be about 500 kilograms of water only. With all spare parts and food it will be more. I do want boat for which such additional weight will not be too much load on rigging.
One month travel is not easy on people and having a bit of space helps.
I also read that 40 feet is a size considered safe for Atlantic.
In the same time - i am not that experienced in offshore sailing (although have some) and bigger boat will be a bit more forgiving to me...
I've been on 40 footers where I thought I was going to die just sitting at the dock and just this last weekend sailed on a Sato (?) 26 that I would circumnavigate in.

Don't fall prey to the bigger is better tribe ... It's BS.

A good book on the subject is "A Sensible Guide to Cruising" by Don Casey. It'll help you figure out what is truly necessary.
(http://www.amazon.com/Sensible-Cruis.../dp/0071580255)

Personally, I'd take a 32-35' boat, built in the 60s, full keel, sound rigging (standing and running), sound engine, current & functional electronics and have a go at it. My budget is 30k. It could be don't for 10-15 with some compromises.

Good luck.
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What is the longest passage you have made as skipper? What about as crew?
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What is the longest passage you have made as skipper? What about as crew?
My longer passage is about 600 miles as a skipper. I skippered one way from Canary Islands to Palma and it was a lag from Madeira to Gibraltar. As a crew - 140 a lot of time ago...
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How many miles, days at sea or anything else I need to consider myself not a wiki sailor?
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