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Old 03-01-2016, 20:59   #796
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

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To those who have helped in a positive way, I say "good on you, you make this forum what attracted me to it in the first place."

Well said. Sorry to paraphrase but rather than copy your whole post I thought I'd just quote your closing line. I think the majority of members would feel the same way and hopefully newer posters like birdy, as well as long time forum members aren't too put off by some of the bickering that occasionally happens online that I doubt would ever happen in face to face conversations. I especially hope that Gil isn't bothered by some of the petty comments. After what he's been/going through, I would hope the forum would be a place he can seek some comfort in an incredibly difficult time. I was sailing today and thinking of Gil and imaging what he must have lost. I don't know, but if my home floated away the irreplaceable personal items would hold far more value than any monetary cost. I'd also like to commend Gil on his honesty and openness to some of the more inflammatory questions and comments.
I'll also ask again for members to refrain from quoting/replying to off topic comments in the hope this thread can continue in the same vein as it began, sailors helping a fellow sailor in a time of need..
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Old 03-01-2016, 21:18   #797
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Is he a kid? How did you learn that? I suppose we can safely assume that something in every angry and distrusting persons past caused him to be that way and something in every happy and kind and trusting persons past caused him to be that way, or maybe not. Maybe he just decided he wanted to be distrustful or angry or happy or trusting today just because that's the side of the bed he got up on or that's just his nature and has been since the day he was born. I don't think any of that really matters. He is what he is for whatever reasons that are his own, and we are to take him and his comments at face value rather than try to psychoanalyze his childhood based on the very limited info available as well as our VERY limited expertise in that area.

I have no idea who mac is, but based on the posts I've read here, I suspect that he'd be more likely than most to walk right on by you on your beach because, "you never know, your apparent hardship just might be a ruse designed to con him." But there I go being just as mistrusting as he is.....and in case you're interested, I had a GREAT childhood!

It is very possible that he is a teen. Before the Internet became available to the average household, I ran a dial up message and file sharing board. It was a pleasure to moderate until a number of boys became intent on it being a place for downloading pirated software and constant flaming on the message board.

As a couple of the kids were local, I took the time to discuss civil decorum on the site with them and their parents in person. It didn't seem to help.

The sad thing is that sailing could bring a lot more to their lives than this keyboard ninja thing.

Gils solo across the Gulf Stream in a small boat. His time spent sick while anchored in deep water. Watching the sun go down while sailing into an unbroken horizon. The moments of panic when he has to turn around while entering the harbor.

It's nice when things go smooth. The rush that comes when things don't and you have to compensate may not be so nice. The things that don't kill you makes you a better story teller.

Some folks will beard the lion in his den, others will tease him when he is in his cage.

Me? Big cats scare me but I like sailing.




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Old 03-01-2016, 21:22   #798
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The winds in the next week look favorable for an east coast grounding.

Here's hoping ya some good luck Gil.


I'd rather be lucky than good.
If the boat dragged off a ledge, think there is a chance that it could re-anchor as it drifts into shallow water off a beach on the East Coast. I think he's got a 50/50 chance.
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

For those of you who might like to further predict where his boat may make landfall, this site might be of use to you.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-73.22,31.31,908
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

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If the boat dragged off a ledge, think there is a chance that it could re-anchor as it drifts into shallow water off a beach on the East Coast. I think he's got a 50/50 chance.
Gils first post indicated about 55 feet of rode. If Dagny does fetch up it will probably be in 10-15 feet at the most .that would be close to shore but perhaps inside a breakline . He will need it to be calm to avoid surf. heres hopeing.
Met a guy in Bequia, he was wandering aboout the world on his bicycle and funding it be selling dvds of his adventure so far . All he had he carried .
Yet another unprepared young guy out there having the time of his life .

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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

In an attempt to dispel the scam theory.
If you go back over many posts there are people who have not only followed Gil's blog for a long time but others who have physically met and helped him in many ways with considerable kindness.
Were Gil a dishonest person (and he isnt) he would have been found out by 'those on the ground', virtually from day one.
Seems everyone is confident Dagny's going to hook herself shortly.
Lots of work done already so now hope is our only tool, contributions aside.
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

Cap Eric and puffcard, I think you are right. I really think this week or the next is her chance to get close to shore and get spotted. Thanks for the input.

We made up a flyer that can be emailed to marinas, boat clubs, etc. If you'd like a copy of which you could forward to whomever you think may help, just pm me with your email address. Or you can cut and paste from this post and the following post( I'll repost pics of boat and drift chart so you don't have to weed through all the past posts to find them)

Here is a copy of the flyer without the images.


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Please be advised that the 26 ft sailing vessel Dagny has drug anchor and suspected to be drifting north in the Gulf Stream. She is showing no lights and is a hazard to navigation.

Contact info
If sighted, please contact the Coast Guard, and if possible email the persons below:

SSCA recovery coordinator, Glen KPK@ssca.org
Owner - Gil gil@keskedee.com

Vessel Info
26ft sailboat, Morris Francis, mid 1970s
Flush deck
Light grey color deck, white hull with dark blue/black stripes
Double ender
Boom Gallows
Sails stowed on deck
Windvane, stern hung rudder
All ports and hatches closed and locked
May still have her quarantine yellow flag up.

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Again, the emailed flyer has the pics of Dagny and drift analysis.
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

Dagny, I blotted out the big red fender as it was not on deck when she went adrift.
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Another chart, thanks to CFer Leaseonlife
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

Close up of last drift analysis thanks to the kindness of Chris Parker

At 5pm on Wed30, I now estimate Dagny might lie near 30-50N/80-56W, based on drift from wind of 15mi, in direction 010T.
At 5pm on Thu31, I now estimate Dagny might lie near 30-59N/80-50W, based on drift from wind of 10mi, in direction 030T.
I'll reiterate: Of course, all of the above is only an educated guess, and the possible errors compound over time...cheers...Chris.
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

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Cap Eric and puffcard, I think you are right. I really think this week or the next is her chance to get close to shore and get spotted. Thanks for the input.

We made up a flyer that can be emailed to marinas, boat clubs, etc. If you'd like a copy of which you could forward to whomever you think may help, just pm me with your email address. Or you can cut and paste from this post and the following post( I'll repost pics of boat and drift chart so you don't have to weed through all the past posts to find them)

Here is a copy of the flyer without the images.


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Please be advised that the 26 ft sailing vessel Dagny has drug anchor and suspected to be drifting north in the Gulf Stream. She is showing no lights and is a hazard to navigation.

Contact info
If sighted, please contact the Coast Guard, and if possible email the persons below:

SSCA recovery coordinator, Glen KPK@ssca.org
Owner - Gil gil@keskedee.com

Vessel Info
26ft sailboat, Morris Francis, mid 1970s
Flush deck
Light grey color deck, white hull with dark blue/black stripes
Double ender
Boom Gallows
Sails stowed on deck
Windvane, stern hung rudder
All ports and hatches closed and locked
May still have her quarantine yellow flag up.

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image2.JPG

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Again, the emailed flyer has the pics of Dagny and drift analysis.
Ocean Girl. Your the best.

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Old 03-01-2016, 23:29   #808
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

Interesting read.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-ghost-ships.php

Hard to find boats..


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Re: Tragedy Strikes.

Ocean Girl, if there's still time to change the flyer, encourage people to give an approximate position, referencing known charted points, capes, wrecks, towns, whatever, and lat/lon approximate, if possible. Reuniting Gil and Dagny may depend on that kind of literalness.

Compliments to you, you've done a bonzer job!

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"bonzer"!! A perfect colloquialism. Not bad for a Tasmanian.
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