Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
Ask them to put it on paper, and sign it. Once you have the paper in hand leave to avoid problems. Then find the right agency to give a copy to.....i2f
I would heartily agree with this statement.
Be polite, but be firm and ask them to write it down and make it a written order. If they refuse, be firm but polite and ask for their name, badge number and jurisdiction information and YOU write that down and then comply and then contact the local District Attorney or even the Sheriff's office for the county. Many times the Sheriffs office is the "highest legal
authority" for a region in a county - and they can generally give you advice or tell you whom to contact in case of such disputes. Sometimes they won't help, it depends on the state you're in or whether you get someone lazy on the phone
I'm saying this after having dealt for many years with the law enforcement community, both from a "government point of view" and working with them in various capacities.
I'll say this, by far nearly every police office you run into in the United States is a "good guy" and will look out for you. If they stop you for something (whether it is in a car, truck or a boat) then you're autoMAGICALLY a suspicious character and you're probably a "perp" as far as they are concerned and until they "clear you" in their minds you're going to be treated as a "perp".
But if you ask them things like "Since I am unaware of that particular law, might you tell me under what state statute I can find the exact law, Officer?" many of them will 1) give you the exact regulation or 2) will state they don't know "but" and give you some other justification for their actions.
And I'll say this, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES even if you're 100% right and they are 100% WRONG give them a reason to taze you, shoot you or arrest you. If you get away with simply a warning, you've done good. Avoid them later!
Over the years I've worked with many of the agencies that are now a part of the larger "Department of Homeland Security" and there are some jerks out there. You ARE going to run into them occasionally - but for the most part they are like the person that stopped the original poster's friend... someone who wanted to push his badge and make someone do something that MOST LIKELY wasn't legal
in the first place.
I'm wondering if folks don't have a thread of "Good places to go" and "Bad places to avoid" for folks cruising around the coastline? If not, maybe it would be good to have some kind of thread going where people can post the good, bad and indifferent about places?