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Old 02-08-2017, 11:49   #61
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Hello, nice day, you have a nice boat, haven't decided where I am headed, take care....

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If you keep searching, you might find a description of me that is accurate but it will not be an easy task. However, may I suggest Merriam Webster's Thesaurus as a valuable tool which has helped countless people across several generations who have difficulty communicating clearly in the English language. It is well written, provides numerous examples of synonyms for each word and can be revisited over a long period of time for those who have difficulty grasping simple linguistic meanings. I hope this helps. Good luck and safe sailing. Captain Rognvald
Is it not Merriam Webster's Dictionary, And Roget's Thesaurus?
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Often people who are explorers, adventurers etc are loners.
How socially adept do you think Slocomb or Moitessier were?
Many, many great scientists and philosophers and artists were loaners and or socially inept, in fact I believe there is a well accepted theory that the best artists etc once they seek solitude that is when their talents become greatest.
In fact leadership and solitude are often said to go together.
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Often people who are explorers, adventurers etc are loners.
How socially adept do you think Slocomb or Moitessier were?
Many, many great scientists and philosophers and artists were loaners and or socially inept, in fact I believe there is a well accepted theory that the best artists etc once they seek solitude that is when their talents become greatest.
In fact leadership and solitude are often said to go together.
Don't forget Sir Francis Chichester.
Same problems.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:38   #65
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Ah, I think we have your problem figured out now ...
What you need to drink is: Beer.
Well beer is free all the time here, but wine is only free at the 3x/week happy hour. So during happy hours I need to get my fruit in! Plus the beer drinking group is kind of serious looking and focused on the task and not talking as much.
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I have never been anywhere with free beer / wine.
I consider a GREAT marina to be one with a clean, nice shower.
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Well beer is free all the time here, but wine is only free at the 3x/week happy hour. So during happy hours I need to get my fruit in! Plus the beer drinking group is kind of serious looking and focused on the task and not talking as much.
Free beer.
Free wine.
But a serious group?
Hey...Where are you?
We are ALL coming to cheer you up.
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So, if I follow your logic, you cannot have a successful life, a good education, a successful business/job or overall success in life unless you ARE NOT critical of other people???? "Self-inflicted" problems have a direct connection to intelligence. Without a brain, everything is acceptable and similar to the amoeba, the most you will be capable of doing is to move in one direction or another in a stimulus response. And, of course, we will conveniently ignore the last 2,500 years of Literature, History and Philosophy that deals with Man's relationship to the world and his dissatisfaction with the status quo. The History of Mankind is the quest of dissatisfied human beings looking for the greener grass on the other side of the fence. If we left the world to those who are so easily satisfied, we would still be living in the Stone Age as meager hunter-gatherers seeking a sustenance existence in an uncertain world. You are what you make it? Only if you are incapable of ignoring reality. The great people in Life are never meek. Meek people in life are never great. Just ask Darwin. Good luck and safe sailing.
So after all that.............. we don't live in an uncertain world? Better ask Mr Trump he'll know.
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Wifey B: Wow. Now, I read sailorboy's first post in this thread and have little wonder why he's not happy with the marina. He sure did look for a lot of things to upset him and rant about.

So, I'll offer another view. I've spent approximately 1200 nights at marinas around the US, Canada, Caribbean, Bahamas, Central America and a couple in Spain, over the last 5 years. Normally 2-3 nights but sometimes just 1 and sometimes a week or even left the boat there a month as i flew home. Here's what I've experienced.

No major issues with marinas or the people there.

Pleasantries exchanged freely.

If I had a problem with the marina and we expressed it privately, it was addressed most of the time.

Too much alcohol consumption at marinas which does lead to disagreements but I stayed away from them.

I didn't attempt to discuss politics or religion with people at marinas as I learned long ago not to discuss those topics with people you don't know.

We have generally chosen marinas with good reviews.

We tried to be courteous and polite and respectful of marina employees and when that wasn't returned we had a private conversation with them to correct it.

We didn't expect more from them than promised or reasonable.

We asked, didn't order.

Even though we paid, we still tried to conduct ourselves as guests.

Maybe I'm just out of this world lucky or could it be something else.

My opinion is that marinas are only the political world described when one chooses to make the world political.

1-Complaints are taken as complaining.
2-Suggestions made loudly, in anger, or in front of others aren't well received.
3-You indicate you've done something questionable it's interpreted as you did.
4-You demand what they can't offer, it's problematic.

1-Don't talk politics
2-So people disagree on batteries. What do you expect? Don't talk about them if that's a problem.
3-Same with anchors.
4-Don't go into any business and start telling them how they should run things.
5-Don't talk ugly to other boaters there about the marina. You don't come into my business and start bad mouthing it.
6-I am a pleasure boater. I don't go to marinas to listen to people complain about anything, including the country we're in.
7-Way too much alcohol so I stay away from the drunks. If necessary, they're told politely but firmly to stay away from us.
8-"Cliques" is the word. So people tend to associate more with some than others. I don't care whether I'm in the popular girl clique or not.

Relax sailorboy, remember the people rules, but just don't take any of it so seriously. I could make a list like yours of things I don't like anywhere, but I prefer to concentrate on the good. See, I've found if I act happy and expect I'll be treated well, then that's what will happen, or at least I'll believe that is what happened.



Oh and we've been treated well at many marinas, but the most shockingly incredibly we were ever treated at a marina as guests into a country was at a marina on the west coast of Nicaragua, Puesta del Sol. Maybe I walk around with rose colored glasses, but doing so sure makes life more pleasant and some of the most pleasant times come where you least expect it. So, enjoying the marina where we are today, love it here, and we'll move on a couple of hundred miles south on Thursday to one I've never been before, but I already know I'll love it.

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Understood, bt remember that some people find things to complain about wherever they go...

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Free beer.
Free wine.
But a serious group?
Hey...Where are you?
We are ALL coming to cheer you up.
well it's not all roses, happy hour starts in 20 minutes and it is raining out and the walk is long, yet if I don't go I will hear about it plus miss out on the newest gossip

what to do what to do
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I really like the people
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well it's not all roses, happy hour starts in 20 minutes and it is raining out and the walk is long, yet if I don't go I will hear about it plus miss out on the newest gossip

what to do what to do
Hey Sailorboy.....
Free beer
Free wine
A little rain (like everywhere else this summer)
Sounds TERRIBLE.
You have all my sympathy.
Where are you? I am coming to console you.
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Woodland, that was good... made me chuckle.
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Jersey people wave, they just use the middle finger instead of the whole hand......
I hold the record for that in jersey..couple hits, put the radio on, down the road in a lincoln town car and do 2-3mph under limit.. they lose their minds,, yrs ago remember lookin in rear view mirror after screamin at someone and my 2 yr old in a car seat was flippin the guy off.. out of the mouths of babes.
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