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Old 01-05-2012, 22:09   #631
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Re: The Philosophy behind Sailing Simply and cheaply

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BINGO!!!

If there is nothing more complex than desire, there there is nothing more simple than contentment.
Very well said!
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:43   #632
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A significant voyage for Newt. Nothing pussified about sailing the PNW. I'd be thinking about a tattoo. And a twin-engined boat. Like ah ... a catamaran. A big one. The size of an aircraft carrier but simple and cheap.
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, mikeybgoode.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:54   #634
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It is.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:11   #635
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Might have some bits of interest to some here....

Teresa Carey's Sailing Simplicity and the Pursuit of Happiness Blog
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thank you GordMay
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Old 28-08-2012, 00:54   #637
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Old 28-08-2012, 03:26   #638
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Re: The Philosophy Behind Sailing Simply and Cheaply

Simple living,....i think that i must have a doctorate in that by now.

Bought my boat for 10k, haven't spent 5k on it to get it into pristine tip top condition. So for about 15k not including my electronics i have new sails, new motor, new paint new everything actually, stainless fittings everywhere, all lines to cockpit, big solar installation, gas inside and out, nice targa, teak and silky oak trim everywhere, etc etc even new winches

But to do that, i have scrounged like a thirsty bloodhound, even managed to suck water out of some dried and shriveled stones and taught myself how to do everything myself.

Just about everything i use is recycled in some way, all the timber trim, floors, whatever used to be beds, window frames, cupboards etc, i just scrounged the tip and then buy em cheap and mill them into the shapes that i need.

My milling table is an old table that cost 5 buck with a $9 circular saw screwed underneath. haha a $14 table saw that acts a router bench too.

All my ground tackle i got for nothing by asking and being in the right place at the right time, which aint bad as i now have 4 anchors and 2 sets of chain for a total cost of $20

Same for the two furlers that will install at some point in time, there worth nothing second hand, and when someone is changing them its usually cause the bearings dead or the extrusions a bit bent.

But on a small boat, you end up with more than enough extrusion to see you good, and you buy a new bearing and install it yourself add a grease nipple to the bearing as you do it too.

Mind you you usually have to take it down for the old owner so that the rigger doesn't just snap it up for scrap.

Paint can be bought cheaply, and even if its epoxy two pack, you just have to figure out who is moving the most of it in your area and then haggle the best deal.

Stainless, haha, what a joke, with the cost of getting someone to do my stainless work it was cheaper to buy a good welder 2nd hand, grad a heap of scrap from the scrap merchants and teach myself, i now have handrails, bollards, targa, cleats, brackets here and there, swim ladders etc etc.

man i could go on and on, even my dunny is a second hand item, some nitwit couldn't figure out why it wasn't working and threw it away, i just fixed it and have a near new toilet. sounds gross, haha but im happy.

same for the motor for one of my fridges on the boat, had a small circuity issue, needed some love, i got it for nothing, spend 60 cents to get a part and now i have a great fridge.

i grow my own plants and veggies, brew my own beer, to live cheaply i do my own washing and enjoy it, whenever i feel like something special to cook i learn a new recipe.

Im some ways by living as i do i have an idyillc life as i dont seem to have all the crap hanging over me that most people seem to have gathered.

Plus the biggest bonus is that as i dont spend much money and know how to live frugally i always seem to have coin in my pocket, what a bonus.

end of my rant,....

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Nice post Matthew !
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Im some ways by living as i do i have an idyillc life as i dont seem to have all the crap hanging over me that most people seem to have gathered.
Wtg Matthew...very good info!
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That was no rant, that was a roadmap for others to follow that wish to live a simple and self sufficient life. Thanks for sharing something that contributes to the discussion. Good post.
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Re: The Philosophy Behind Sailing Simply and Cheaply

It's been my mantra for the past 50 years, I read it when I was 15...

Living simple has always appealed to me.

It's much more than the peace of mind that I get knowing that I'll never have to care about failure of systems that are NOT on my boat or in my life...

It's rewarding in and of its self..

BUT we have "MADMEN" telling us that we shouldn't deprive ourselves...And unfortunately many folks buy into it...Good for the economy I guess...

Each to his own said the man as he kissed the cow..
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.....That does [not?] mean that you cannot have money. It just means that you choose not to spend it for things that consume your time, and ultimately your life....
You mean "things" like a boat? Almost by definition, any modern cruising yacht consumes both significant time and money. Even a modest crusing yacht requires much more finanicial resources than the majority of the population of this planet even dream of having in their life time. Keep in mind that we cruisers probably represent way less than 1% of the population of the planet.

Like Thoreau, we can sail off on our boats, and "pretend" to be living simplistically and inexpensively for a little while, but sooner or later reality will come knocking.

If you want to cruise relatively simply and inexpensively then you need to take the same approach as the Pardeys aboard a boat like Serafin. Still this requires not insignificant financial resources compared to the rest of the world population. And, I'm pretty sure I would be spending most of my cruising time single-handed...as did Thoreau ashore.

If you really just want simple and cheap then ditch the boat, immediately and dramatically reducing complexity and costs in your life, and find a buddy who will let you squat on his land for a couple of years...like Thoreau did.

Picture attached, taken just off my dock, of a local sailing simply and inexpensively. If you want to know what it is like to _really_ continuously live like Thoreau played at doing then PM me and I can arrange for you to stay with a local family here for awhile.
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Re: The Philosophy Behind Sailing Simply and Cheaply

Good post Belize. I agree that having a boat, esp a boat large enough to live on, does complicate you life somewhat. I went through a stage in my life where I went without anything- including other people- for a while just to make sure I could do it. But living in a cave without any modern tools is not what this tread is about. It is basicly- now that we have made the choice to have a boat and enjoy sailing, why do some of us need less and actually find it more fun.
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Good post Belize. I agree that having a boat, esp a boat large enough to live on, does complicate you life somewhat. I went through a stage in my life where I went without anything- including other people- for a while just to make sure I could do it. But living in a cave without any modern tools is not what this tread is about. It is basicly- now that we have made the choice to have a boat and enjoy sailing, why do some of us need less and actually find it more fun.
Given the assumption of a boat, and all the hassles and expenses that go along with it, then you can still enjoy some "simple" aspects of cruising until all the complicated stuff comes a calling:

- Remote places which are only feasible to visit aboard a boat -- really enjoyed Cayos Cochinos Honduras last season.
- Getting to know the locals in such places
- Fishing
- Snorkeling
- Local food
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