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Old 02-02-2015, 21:32   #61
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re: The Frugal (AKA poor) Sailor

But back to the frugal thing, often frugal means buying high quality and sometimes paying a lot for it, But it's lifespan may be several times the less expensive item.
I can't imagine a frugal sailor buying a new boat though. I've bought all kinds of stuff off of the classifieds here, and have yet to be stung, have always gotten a good deal, but then I don't mind wearing someone else's foulies if they are good quality, often some sailors simply "swallow the anchor" and sell good stuff for very low prices, I sometimes think they are glad knowing it will be used.


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I just thought of something else we do that comes under the "frugal" heading. We do almost all our own canvas work; however, had one mainsail boom bag made, and someone other than me put the new windows in our dodger. So not 100%, but it is also strangely gratifying to do it, sort of like it's fun, after the fact of the work, which is okay, sorta meditative. Oh, yeah, the machine is a 1949 Pfaff that originally belonged to my mother. It is pleasing to keep old machinery working.

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re: The Frugal (AKA poor) Sailor

FRUGAL:

economical in use or expenditure; prudently saving or sparing; not wasteful.
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this only works, I think, if you have lots of space, but there is an old Portuguese proverb: He who saves, finds. And of course, when you find it you can [re]use it.

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re: The Frugal (AKA poor) Sailor

The Frugal sailor, if missing a charting program would indeed be wise to consider utilising his or her portable computer/tablet and running OPENCPN.

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cm93 charts are widely available for the program.
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Ok I am frugal living in a very unfrugal town. When we moved to dubai I was warned that the "lifestyle" was addicting. We took precautions. We found the largest apartment with the smallest price tag in the best neighborhood. When a friend tried to sell us their new Maserati we declined and bought a third hand mini. I shop at the local "target" and at the more reasonable mall. I am looking at a boat that even with major repairs will cost a quarter of our dream boat. Usually we do work ourselves. We have an antique Maserati that hubby has done most of the work on. It is the only way we could own such a car. We have loads of money but appreciate things more when we put effort in. Just the way we are


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I try to buy the highest quality I can on replacement parts, that does not translate to more expensive at the time of purchase, it does translate to less expensive in terms of longevity. I don't skimp on hoses or belts. I do perform most of my own maintenance work, and I am going to purchase the biggest solar panels I can afford to fit on my vessel, to keep the genset running time to a minimum. Performing your own maintenance keeps you familiar with what is going on with your vessel, soothes the savage beast, and saves you lots of money.
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I try to buy the highest quality I can on replacement parts, that does not translate to more expensive at the time of purchase, it does translate to less expensive in terms of longevity. I don't skimp on hoses or belts. I do perform most of my own maintenance work, and I am going to purchase the biggest solar panels I can afford to fit on my vessel, to keep the genset running time to a minimum. Performing your own maintenance keeps you familiar with what is going on with your vessel, soothes the savage beast, and saves you lots of money.
Your description fits the frugal definition.

economical in use or expenditure; prudently saving or sparing; not wasteful.

A balance of longevity vs cost vs reliability.
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The Frugal sailor, if missing a charting program would indeed be wise to consider utilising his or her portable computer/tablet and running OPENCPN.

OpenCPN | Official OpenCPN Homepage

cm93 charts are widely available for the program.
I'd like to know where they're freely available.. alledgedly.. my AV goes apeshit when I hit download on all the decoys out there..
I had a set I used on OpenCPN.. stopped using them when I acquired Nimble Nav... so gave em away... serves me right for not copying the 'Mother Stick' first..
However since my Notebook died through an excess of G&T I've been unable to get hold of CM93 charts since
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I'd like to know where they're freely available.. alledgedly.. my AV goes apeshit when I hit download on all the decoys out there..
I had a set I used on OpenCPN.. stopped using them when I acquired Nimble Nav... so gave em away... serves me right for not copying the 'Mother Stick' first..
However since my Notebook died through an excess of G&T I've been unable to get hold of CM93 charts since
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To me the difference between the frugal and the cheap: the cheap person is the one who, when he/she is invited to the pot luck says he won't be able to attend so won't be bringing anything, but always manages to show up at the last minute and make a plate. The frugal person is the one who happily brings a nice economical bean dish to share (usually sticking around after to help clean up)....
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There's been nothing but praise so far for 'frugallers', so I am going to play the devil's advocate and chime in with an alternative view .

The other side of the frugal coin is the hoarding of assets, sparing of spending when funds are sufficient and it would improve the quality of life to do so.

Think "Scrooge" ie being not just sparing with spending, but stingy.

The sad tale of an elderly couple that lived across the road from us springs to mind. They were frugal with heating costs, keeping just one small room of their large home heated sparingly in winter and not installing central heating. They embraced being frugal with a passion. No home help was ever employed, no holidays or outings were taken. The husband eventually died of emphysema during a particularly cold winter. When his wife passed away shortly after, assets totalling millions went to charity.

Yes, they were frugal, but sadly so. Hoarding of funds is not admirable either. I think a balance needs to be struck.

How many people could enrich their lives tremendously by spending a little more of the funds they are accumulating?
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There's been nothing but praise so far for 'frugallers', so I am going to play the devil's advocate and chime in with an alternative view .

The other side of the frugal coin is the hoarding of assets, sparing of spending when funds are sufficient and it would improve the quality of life to do so.

Think "Scrooge" ie being not just sparing with spending, but stingy.

The sad tale of an elderly couple that lived across the road from us springs to mind. They were frugal with heating costs, keeping just one small room of their large home heated sparingly in winter and not installing central heating. They embraced being frugal with a passion. No home help was ever employed, no holidays or outings were taken. The husband eventually died of emphysema during a particularly cold winter. When his wife passed away shortly after, assets totalling millions went to charity.

Yes, they were frugal, but sadly so. Hoarding of funds is not admirable either. I think a balance needs to be struck.

How many people could enrich their lives tremendously by spending a little more of the funds they are accumulating?
Great point SL...

I FULLY EMBRACE the not hoarding of assets lifestyle....
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