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Old 18-02-2013, 22:54   #1
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Storm off of Nova Scotia

This is the strangest water vapor image I have ever seen. Five people are lost after their boat capsized off Nova Scotia last night in what gCaptain says was a wicked storm. The news clip says there were hurricane force winds in the area.


Five Fishermen Missing After Sword Boat Capsizes Off Nova Scotia | gCaptain - Maritime & Offshore News
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:21   #2
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Nice picture.

Let's see if this bumps it back to recent discussions list.

edit to add,... there you go DF.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Let's see if this makes it appear

I had this problem once putting something in a sub section. I ended up deleteing the thread and reposting not in a sub section. I think it is a glitch in the system.

PS I see Four Winds beat me to it LOL.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Strange, I tried editing the post and that did not do anything. Although I thought at the time that maybe no posts were getting through as the forum seemed very quiet at the time.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Yikes! Another so-called "perfect storm." Perfectly deadly, it seems. What a tragedy.
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Old 19-02-2013, 09:33   #6
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

It's probably the same system that came through here Sunday night. A real whomper. 60 kt gusts all night long.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

It seemed for a while that there was one storm after another in both Pacific and Atlantic with Hurricane winds. Those wind speeds apparently don't last that long but are deadly if you get caught in them. It will be interesting to see after the winter is over if there has been an increase in number of these storms. I think the average for the Atlantic is about 17 per yr.(but don't count on my memory).
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

This one has waves forecast at 12 meters (40 ft). That's nice.

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I just a learner for weather but does this represent a bent back low. If so the low may be at the center of the circular wind, an occluded front extends from the low, and the cold front (the clouds that make the T) connects to the occluded front. They are supposed to be bad. The rougher weather is at the T. It will probably move slow since it has an upper level occluded low over it. Any comments? Am I way off base?
It would be great if someone who really knew would comment. The only thing I know for sure is I do not want to be with in a 1,000 miles of it.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

The 'upper level' is the same thing. It is just the 'upper portion' of the whole thing.

You can get an interpretation from NOAA radiofaxes (I think this one goes to Boston?)

Worst conditions for navigation tend to be below the system (S of it, in this case) and the passing front (or fronts) will bring a a rapid change in wind direction. Wind driven waves will collide and create pretty messy seas that are much more dangerous than the winds.

For extra-tropical systems 1000 Nm might not be enough.

For learning things I can recommend UCAR.

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I give. What is UCAR?
Is this a bent back low?
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I give. What is UCAR?
Is this a bent back low?
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I do not know this term. I know bent-back fronts.

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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Re earlier threads where people suggested doing some met training here.

https://www.meted.ucar.edu/training_detail.php

I found their information and training useful and accessible to non-academic learner.

Back then there was plenty of freebies. Check now to see if it is still the same good source. Sometimes good things get commercialized but I hope this one has not.

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Another interesting part of the storm is that we had a reverse storm surge. Instead of the wind blowing a surge against the shore, it blew it all out to sea. High tide pretty much never happened, and the low tide was WAY low - probably 1-2' below astronomical low.
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Re: Storm off of Nova Scotia

Under the circumstances, that was probably good news as the winds in NS seemed to easily push trucks into the ditch. I have a friend that drives for Canadian Tire there...I should see how he's fairing.

Of course, pushing wind against tide that strongly would probably make trying to get into harbour a total nightmare.
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