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Old 05-11-2009, 17:18   #16
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Any evidence of anything happening to cruisers in here?

Anything at all?
In the past, yes. For current info I would try a Google search. Here is some interesting history on piracy in that area.

Piracy in the Strait of Malacca - Wikipedia
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Any evidence of anything happening to cruisers in here?

Anything at all?
In the straits of malacca, none that I know of for the last 20 years.
One guy was murdered last year (or the year before) anchored in a bay south end of Thailand by 3 Burmese slave fishermen trying to escape their fishing boat. He belligerently tried to defend his boat and died for it. His wife said if he had been calm she was sure neither would have been hurt.

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In the past, yes. For current info I would try a Google search. Here is some interesting history on piracy in that area.

Piracy in the Strait of Malacca - Wikipedia
I regularly do google searches of the area and check all or most asian news services as well as the piracy reporting sites and noonsite and there are no cases of piracy against cruisers that come up.

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Exactly, so it would seem the biggest threat for cruisers in the Malacca straights are fish traps, passing ships and plastic bags.
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We use a security grill door at anchor. A great investment! We can lock up but the air comes through



Easy for some, I have a hole like this to fill



May have to do some form of sectioned door or opening window with screen
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Easy for some, I have a hole like this to fill

How about a No Entry sign?
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Should a sloop rig be more or less detectable than a ketch (single tall mast vs two short masts)? What about (re: radar cross-section) synthetic standing rigging vs stainless?

Since the pirates are likely only using the radar systems found on their stolen fishing boats (or similar, ie not military), are there any relatively easy (and temporary) ways to mask your mast's signature?
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Should a sloop rig be more or less detectable than a ketch (single tall mast vs two short masts)? What about (re: radar cross-section) synthetic standing rigging vs stainless?

Since the pirates are likely only using the radar systems found on their stolen fishing boats (or similar, ie not military), are there any relatively easy (and temporary) ways to mask your mast's signature?
The military has radar jammers. No idea if there is a version that civilians could own. It could create other obvious problems as well.

It makes me wonder whats the most powerful laser that a civilian could obtain? I would imagine that a laser that puts out a few hundred watts could do some serious eye damage even outside of gun range. That might just scare the hell out of them if not anything else.

A 1000, 2000 or 3000 watt laser might even start a fire. Wouldn't it be fun to start multiple fires on their wood boats? Dousing fires with buckets of water would distract them for sure. Not to mention really fun things like lighting their pants on fire.

As far as I know, lasers are not banned the same way guns are banned in most countries.

One company on the internet selling lasers says: "When selecting a laser, it is important to get a laser that has enough power and is otherwise suitable for your application." I wonder if red or green lasers are more suitable for catching pirate boats on fire?

I have no idea about the physics or the reality, I just thought it was a fun thought.
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It makes me wonder whats the most powerful laser that a civilian could obtain? I would imagine that a laser that puts out a few hundred watts could do some serious eye damage even outside of gun range. That might just scare the hell out of them if not anything else.

A 1000, 2000 or 3000 watt laser might even start a fire. Wouldn't it be fun to start multiple fires on their wood boats? Dousing fires with buckets of water would distract them for sure. Not to mention really fun things like lighting their pants on fire.

As far as I know, lasers are not banned the same way guns are banned in most countries.

One company on the internet selling lasers says: "When selecting a laser, it is important to get a laser that has enough power and is otherwise suitable for your application." I wonder if red or green lasers are more suitable for catching pirate boats on fire?

I have no idea about the physics or the reality, I just thought it was a fun thought.
You'd want an infrared one to start a fire. Laser efficiencies are so low that I doubt any reasonably sized boat could sport one. If you're comfortable carrying some pretty nasty and reactive chemicals on board, a chemical laser should fill the bill.
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Might be on the right path here. Got me thinking about an electro-magnetic pulse gun. You could simply shut down their engine at a range of 200 meters. They'd be buzzing along towards you when all of a sudden they'd just stop. The looks on their face alone would be priceless.



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Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects
Protocol IV, Vienna, 13 October 1995


Objectives

The aim of the Convention and its Protocols is to provide new rules for the protection of military personnel and, particularly, civilians and civilian objects from injury or attack under various conditions by means of fragments that cannot readily be detected in the human body by X-rays, landmines and booby traps, and incendiary weapons and blinding laser weapons.

Key Provisions

This Convention serves as an umbrella for protocols dealing with specific weapons. The Convention and its annexed Protocols apply in the situations common to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 for the Protection of War Victims, including any situation described in Additional Protocol I to these Conventions.
Protocol IV on Blinding Laser Weapons prohibits the use of laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.


So that would be a no!
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. . . We use a security grill door at anchor. A great investment! We can lock up but the air comes through . . .
Great idea! What are the construction materials? Wood, metal, stainless?
Did you reinforce the companionway sides to resist it being "kicked in"?

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As far as EMP weapons go the best most effective is the "tactical nuke" - lob one of those over the pirate's boat and that would certainly terminate their interest in you along with a lot of other terminated stuff. . . .
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Back on thread I can only repeat what I've posted elsewhere.
1 There are advantages to BIG groups that are prepared to stay in convoy at slowest boat speed and stay as a tight group.
Eventually such tactics lead to counter tactics. Once detected the convoy becomes the target af a wolf pack.
2 Stay silent, radar lights and radio OFF. All reflective stuff OFF the mast and folded flat and horizontal. Change course after dusk and before sunrise to reduce the chance of interception at night. DO NOT tell anyone where you are going, what your destination is, what your tactics are. Even set off headed west and change course after dark and stay out of cargo routes, they too carry friends of Pirates, usually in the underpaid radio shack. It worked to some extent until 1943, then radar swung things to the Uboat, then radar got better and could spot a periscope, aircraft patrolled and defence got better. There were still losses. Make no mistake about that.
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Protocol IV, Vienna, 13 October 1995


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Protocol IV on Blinding Laser Weapons prohibits the use of laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices. The High Contracting Parties shall not transfer such weapons to any State or non-State entity.


So that would be a no!
So what this is effectively saying is that it is better to use guns because they are safer.
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