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08-06-2015, 02:36
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Gary,
Now you're coming around, there's still hope for you.
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Hahahahahahahaha
There is no coming around, I posted preferences for Cats and boats in the past year and the Broadblue has always been at the top of the list.
When it comes to monos, I have a preference for the chunkies. I like this:
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08-06-2015, 10:35
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#122
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
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Nothing ugly about that beautiful girl. Classic lines.
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08-06-2015, 10:55
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#123
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Registered User
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Steady Hand
Let's see a photo of your boat!
I really like seeing Herreshoff boats.
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Me too! Most Herreshoff boats anyway and it does depend on which Herreshoff of the family designed it. I sailed on a Marco Polo as crew but didn't really think she was a beauty. The one I really liked was an S-Boat but a different Herreshoff designed her and she was too small for cruising.
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08-06-2015, 11:21
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#124
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by SkiprJohn
Me too! Most Herreshoff boats anyway and it does depend on which Herreshoff of the family designed it. I sailed on a Marco Polo as crew but didn't really think she was a beauty. The one I really liked was an S-Boat but a different Herreshoff designed her and she was too small for cruising.
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Herreshoff Designs is still building boats. Ofcourse they've chosen to honor our maritime heritage instead of building boats that look like spaceships so they must be ugly.
Herreshoff 43
Classic American designs have withstood the test of time, the true measure of aesthetics. I doubt there will be any museums dedicated to the current crop of modern European designs 50 years from now. More likely people will wonder what the hell they were thinking.
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08-06-2015, 12:15
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#125
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Switzerland
Boat: So many boats to choose from. Would prefer something that is not an AWB, and that is beachable...
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Scout 30
I doubt there will be any museums dedicated to the current crop of modern European designs 50 years from now. More likely people will wonder what the hell they were thinking.
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Modern European design is already in the museums right now. I have no reason to suppose it won't be 50 years from now...
Me, I look at some American cars and wonder what the hell those designers were thinking. (Wooden paneling on the outside of a car, really?)
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08-06-2015, 12:42
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#126
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by K_V_B
Modern European design is already in the museums right now. I have no reason to suppose it won't be 50 years from now...
Me, I look at some American cars and wonder what the hell those designers were thinking. (Wooden paneling on the outside of a car, really?)
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You mean like the 1933 Rolls Royce Phantom II Shooting Brake?
Horrible, tasteless, American design, I guess?
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08-06-2015, 12:55
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#127
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by K_V_B
Modern European design is already in the museums right now. I have no reason to suppose it won't be 50 years from now...
Me, I look at some American cars and wonder what the hell those designers were thinking. (Wooden paneling on the outside of a car, really?)
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To be clear I was only referring to modern sailboat design. I just don't believe that the modern sailboat designs from Beneteau, Jenneau, etc will stand the test of time. Of course this is just my opinion & a gross generalization. I'm not foolish enough to pretend that my opinion is fact.
Regarding cars it's my understanding that a lot of classic American cars have made their way to Europe & Australia. A lot of classic American sailboats have been imported as well. Personally I'm not a huge fan of classic American cars. I much prefer European.
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08-06-2015, 12:57
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#128
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
You mean like the 1933 Rolls Royce Phantom II Shooting Brake?
Attachment 103400
Horrible, tasteless, American design, I guess?
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Drool!
Slobber!
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08-06-2015, 13:21
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#129
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
Gary,
I'm sure you'd have no difficulty putting one of these American classics in your garage for short money.
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08-06-2015, 13:47
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#130
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Registered User
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Gary,
I'm sure you'd have no difficulty putting one of these American classics in your garage for short money.
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I think even you'll admit, it doesn't matter how many of these sold... it's just butt ugly.
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08-06-2015, 13:48
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#131
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Moderator
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Gary,
I'm sure you'd have no difficulty putting one of these American classics in your garage for short money.
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Tee hee.
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08-06-2015, 14:00
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#132
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
Don't look at market success as a yard stick for great design and high quality. The lowest priced little strawberry box houses always out sell higher priced better built and designed houses. The same goes with the cheapest cars. You can take it right down to the cheapest hamburger. So why in the world would you actually believe that the cheaper entry level sailboats are design and quality built leaders??
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08-06-2015, 14:00
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#133
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
Thats the benefit of choice.
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- Never test how deep the water is with both feet -
10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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08-06-2015, 14:10
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#134
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cruiser
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Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
I thought this was for you, Weavy:
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08-06-2015, 14:11
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#135
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Re: Some yachts are plain ugly and some beautiful, why and does it matter?
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
I thought this was for you, Weavy:
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Its French.......
Doesnt count.
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10% of conflicts are due to different opinions. 90% by the tone of voice.
Raise your words, not your voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.
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