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Old 19-06-2009, 15:57   #16
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Originally Posted by Ocean Girl View Post
Spend anytime offshore you will probably have a "wilson" moment, embrace it twitch twitch

Does anyone know the hull speeds of Mr. de Villier's and Mr. Dodge's boats, and average speeds of their journeys?

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Old 19-06-2009, 16:05   #17
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Charls boat was a Tartan 37 max hull speed is 7.3 ish, but again the guy never met a wind he wanted to reef in, so he pushed that boat around the world. I'll ask him what his best days were.

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Old 19-06-2009, 16:54   #18
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Originally Posted by WhataWorld!
... First few legs may be: Miami, Puerto Rico, BVI ...
Search this forum and Google for "the thorny path", read what you'll find. Then, think carefully before starting the Miami -> P.R. -> BVI legs. That route looks short on a map but is a real bear (due to fighting the trade winds), and might chew up a substantial portion of the year you are thinking about.

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Yeah, I was thinking about that. You're right, I think it might be better to go Miami, Bahamas, then down to Jamaica, and then the canal. I can always spend a couple months cruising the Caribbean some other time.
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I also think one year may be pushing it, but it's all about timing the weather windows as you're passing into the different areas of the world. As OG said it's covered thoroughly by Jimmy Cornell.

I am also a tri guy and have bragged about their speed but that doesn't necessarily translate into markedly faster passages overall. Maxingout on this forum has a good discussion of this as it related to his circumnavigation in his cat. If you've got a Ferrari that'll do 185 it doesn't mean you're averaging even 90. The speed potential creates a comfort cushion - if you need it it's there.

Corsair's are good production tris which are more toward a racing bent.

Chris White is a good multihull designer and a number of shops build his designs.

Existing Searunners are excellent older tris.
My favorite design is John Marples Constant Camber series (in many ways an updated Searunner). There's a shop in the Philippines that builds them and probably be able to fairly inexpensively. If it's a circumnavigation it could begin & complete from there, right?
So, no question if the desire is there, how can you not go for it?

And as this progresses definitely keep this forum updated, we'll all be wanting to keep track!
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The solo question

One of the most difficult things to 'test' before you head out for a long passage is if you can deal with being on your own for long periods. I can, but for the first few days I'm a bit wiggy.

One thing I read, I think from Graham, was to go out somewhere with a pup tent - no phone, radios, or whatnot, maybe some books - and just spend a weekend or a week alone. It's actually pretty hard to do, spend a few days without interacting with another person even once.

If you can pick a plan and stick to it, don't second-guess yourself to death, and keep up with the cleaning and maintenance while underway, you can get most anywhere. But that also means picking a goal or destination which isn't a stunt in the first place.

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Old 20-06-2009, 10:27   #22
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Just some quick estimation math for Dodge. 27,000 miles divided by 150 days divided by 24 hours gives you 7.5 knots average. This is non stop on a 60ft. aluminum hi tech boat for the time. GREAT READ........i2f
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As for the trimaran, I want something that is not necessarily trailerable, since it wouldn't need to be transported over land, but it would be nice to have semi-retractable amas for marinas
If this comment is about the Dragonfly, you may have only seen the smaller of the three models while visiting their site. The largest is some 12m in length, & is not trailerable.
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Your speed will determine how hard you have to work at making a quick circumnavigation. We sailed 150 miles a day on our catamaran, and the autopilot steered all the way around the world. If we had done 200+ miles a day, someone would have to be on deck all the time watching and trimming the sails for maximum performance around the clock.

Fast circumnavigations are hard work and not particularly relaxing. Some people like pushing hard around the clock week after week, but they are the exception.

Eighteen months gives you a lot more flexibility and makes the trip more enjoyable for most sailors. Round the world sailing rallies often do the trip in eighteen months.

If I was going to do a quick circumnavigation, I would probably shadow a sailing rally around the world. I would stick to their schedule and sail a day or two in front of or behind the rally.

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