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Old 06-04-2014, 08:25   #931
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No offense Cap but "plastic' and "teak" should never be used in the same sentence.

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I'd choose the low maintenance plastic duck over the high maintenace brightwork swan any day! Low cost function trumps expensive pretty!
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Don, a photo of the Rose in Summer Delta attire, complete with canvas deck shade.
Look GREAT SC!
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:16   #934
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I'd choose the low maintenance plastic duck over the high maintenace brightwork swan any day! Low cost function trumps expensive pretty!
Heh heh. I picked the wrong thead fer that opinion!

As they all do, my PO let the minimal teak on my boat go gray, and over the years the cleaners had really done a job on the handrails in particular. I removed them and took the like new hand rails from inside the boat and am halfway thru installing 'em. I was an oldtimey varnisher by trade for a bit but now I am not so sure. I ain't painting 'em pink [!] but am starting to think about NOT varnishing them. Oiling them will let me procrastinate further. Procrastination is my true calling.

I know a real craftsman who used the plastic teak on his little catboat. It looks real good, as I suspect Todd's does.
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I'd choose the low maintenance plastic duck over the high maintenace brightwork swan any day! Low cost function trumps expensive pretty!

What about low cost, functional, and pretty?
Of course that is usually only possible for people who LIKE to work on their boat!
A CT is not a Swan, but some of us think they are far prettier, known to be highly seaworthy, and available pretty cheap because prior owners did NOT want to spend the time working on them ...but I am not a lay on the beach and play golf kind of guy. All matters of personal taste.

Sailor Chick, your little pink boat certainly is a yacht. And a home. Proud of you, girl, youre doing it all yourself with resources you have. That trumps a status boat maintained by throwing money at it any day.
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What about low cost, functional, and pretty?
Of course that is usually only possible for people who LIKE to work on their boat! ................
I've know some who think tht the Morgan Out Islands are real "Dogs" when it comes to pretty. I like the simple, functional & low maintenance. My rails and companionway slides are starborad plastic. I think it looks ok on a boat with a chlorox bottle design.




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Been debating with myself whether to paint the overhead (which is raw ply) for maybe 35 - or to cover it with white vinyl for around 400-450.
Was thinking vinyl would probably be more attractive to any potential buyer but...
I expect this to be my last boat so why should I care?
Painting will take a tenth of the time...
Vinyl in a steel chine boat might increase condensation... and there's that "lipstick on a pig" argument...

Thanks for helping me decide, Sailorchic! Pink? Er... very tempting of course but might just stick with boring old white

I had the same dilemma - so I tried paint on one panel, with plan B being to cover it with vinyl. I put in a fair bit of effort on preparation (both removing glue & foam remnants and filling with epoxy) and painted using a roller (white paint - exterior grade household )........results looked like painted wood, on my boat (1970) that finish looks in keeping and for me results better than expected ......so I did them all. On other boat styles likely would look wrong.

Give it a punt.
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Most people I know who have sailed Morgans say they are a fine boat. CT's and Formosa's have a reputation among the race boat set as being "real dogs" too, but they do what they are designed for just fine.... that is going anywhere with more seaworthiness than most of the crews.

Your plastic stained glass piece is pretty too.

I paid my way around the world twice doing real stained glass. Not prejudice against anything anyone likes, including pretty imitation stained glass. I just like to create things, so a boat requiring lots of work is OK with me. I also like people who do not want to work on their own boats. They are potential customers
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Most people I know who have sailed Morgans say they are a fine boat. CT's and Formosa's have a reputation among the race boat set as being "real dogs" too, but they do what they are designed for just fine.... that is going anywhere with more seaworthiness than most of the crews.

Your plastic stained glass piece is pretty too.

I paid my way around the world twice doing real stained glass. Not prejudice against anything anyone likes, including pretty imitation stained glass. I just like to create things, so a boat requiring lots of work is OK with me. I also like people who do not want to work on their own boats. They are potential customers
Nice work!
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Gee BC, You know I avoid Oakland like the plague. Besides it actually looks pretty good.


Don, a photo of the Rose in Summer Delta attire, complete with canvas deck shade.
I like it Looks pretty to me.
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Most people I know who have sailed Morgans say they are a fine boat. CT's and Formosa's have a reputation among the race boat set as being "real dogs" too, but they do what they are designed for just fine.... that is going anywhere with more seaworthiness than most of the crews.

Your plastic stained glass piece is pretty too.

I paid my way around the world twice doing real stained glass. Not prejudice against anything anyone likes, including pretty imitation stained glass. I just like to create things, so a boat requiring lots of work is OK with me. I also like people who do not want to work on their own boats. They are potential customers
That's beautiful! I like the way you incorporated the drift wood.
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I don't know if someone has put this info here as I haven't read the whole thing. But if you feel you must paint over your teak bits, then do yourself and the next owner a favor. Varnish your wood first then paint over it. The varnish will stop the paint from ingraining the teak and make the reverse less painful and damaging.

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Oddly enough, my teak was varnished, just for that very reason. A heat gun would strip it all down pretty easy...
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Shoestring Sailors (Cruising on $500 per month - part II)

I've got some teak on my boat and the finish didn't make it though the winter well. I'm trying to decide if it would be less trouble and cost to just replace instead of refinishing it.

Guess that tells you how much teak I have! I do know that painting it isn't an option
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starbrite tropical teak oil.

clean the teak, brush on two coats. after a couple of years it fades away. brush on two more coats.
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