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Old 09-02-2015, 06:03   #16
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

In a salon I can get my hair cut by an attractive woman.

In a saloon I can eat, drink, and get female companionship.

Yup saloon not only wins by default of the attractiveness of the definition, but those are all things I can do and enjoy on my boat.

Might even start making and selling "Welcome to the (boat name here) saloon" signs to hang on the bulk head.
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

I have read both and I don't think there's any one person universally in charge who can make a rule one way or the other. I find that if I call it a "cabin", people understand what I'm talking about. They don't get a funny look on their face and wait for an explanation.
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

An old debate ➥ Salon or Saloon ?

Nathaniel Herreshoff always referred to the living area of a yacht as the saloon.
The Encyclopedia of Nautical Knowledge defines a saloon this way: “In a cargo and smaller passenger vessels, the main cabin, or that serving as a dining-room, assembly room, etc.”
The Oxford Concise Dictionary describes a saloon as a: “public room for first-class or for all passengers on ship.”
The only dissonant note is sounded by Webster’s New World Dictionary, which allows the use of both salon and saloon, but then confesses that saloon is “specifically, the main social cabin of a passenger ship.”
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I think it's pretty obvious...
Not so obvious. I typically get my hair cut in the main cabin. So which is the correct name.

As someone said, they are derived from the same word. Originally it was a comfortable room to sit in after dinner (think late 1800's english manor house). In mansions, they had seperate ones for men and women. Since the men's version typically had a side bar with liquor, it sounded fancy to call your bar a saloon. The women's version would have a lot of talk about dresses and hair styles, so womens hair dressers though it would sound fancy to call it a salon.

I'll give you 1000-1 odds you could spell it either way and no one would have any misunderstanding regarding your meaning (you might get a snarky response but no misunderstanding)
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

It's a pretty rowdy crowd when they don't understand that a hair-salon is called so to make it sound French (=stylish) because a saloon is salon in French, while the Wild West Saloon is called a Cafe in France, which makes Yanks think it is about coffee.

Whaddayaknow... it's the same word spelled differently in different languages
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Contentious and vigorous debate currently underway between the Admiral and I. Is it a salon or a saloon? In my opinion, a salon (while also somewhere you can go to get a haircut) is the cabin of your boat. A saloon is where Yosemite Sam might go raise hell, or sit at a bar to drink moonshine. Thoughts?
My thought is to tell the Admiral she was right and go on about your day.

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My thought is to tell the Admiral she was right and go on about your day.

Before approaching a dock, what do you call those puffy things you hang out to keep from scratching your topsides, fenders or bumpers?
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

Saloon or Salon?

What you call it may depend on what kind of boat you own.

If one is a Catamaran owner it does change one's attitude (pun on angle) on sailing AND the nomenclature one uses. For example, a "heel" on a cruising cat is simply something on one's foot.

Similarly, the public space on boats is then likely to be called (by a cat owner):

On a Cat = "Great Room" or "Sun Room" or "Living Room"

On a Mono = "The Cave"

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Before approaching a dock, what do you call those puffy things you hang out to keep from scratching your topsides, fenders or bumpers?
Del Rey rigging.
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

Ug. The only thing worse than calling them "bumpers" is leaving the out while underway.

OK, I need to lighten up. But everyone's allowed a pet peeve or two, right?
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Saloon........as "lets go downstairs to the saloon".


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Re: Salon or Saloon??

My builder says it's a saloon, which I fully agree. Besides, a salon is where one gets her nails/hair done, while a saloon provides food and liquid refreshments.





Definitely a saloon:


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Re: Salon or Saloon??

I recently overheard Mr. Greenhand telling someone that ours is a salon because we don't have enough alcohol aboard to call it a saloon. Hey, he is the one that took out the liquor locker!
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Del Rey rigging.
That's funny right there.

I've always called em Del Rey Burgees.
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