Sailing through the night on chartered boat? is it allowed.

[Mithril Bham]

Originally Posted by StuM

<pedant mode on>
No phosphorus involved.

What you see is bioluminescence, not phosphorescence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioluminescence

and phosphorescence is so named because it is produced by phosphors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

and phosphorus isn't a phosphor, it is a chemoluminescent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus

</Pedant mode>

You are no doubt right but we call it that anyway. What is the name of those little animals?

[StuM]

Originally Posted by magellanyachts

You are no doubt right but we call it that anyway. What is the name of those little animals?

Primarily dinoflagellates.

[Mithril Bham]

Originally Posted by StuM

Primarily dinoflagellates.

Yea. That's it. We have a hard time pronouncing words over three syllables up here. Strong backs and weak minds.
Thanks

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

A few years ago we flew down to Crystal River to eat, and I saw Mahi Mahi on the menu, I asked what it was and was told fish, so I said OK what kind of fish? About two tables away someone understood and said it's Dolphin, so of course I asked then why don't they call it Dolphin then?
Someone else said, cause the Yankees are horrified about eating Flipper

Goes ta show ya-- you can get as much misinformation in a restaurant as on the internet!!

Jim

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by brianlara 3

Maybe it will seem less strange to you if you accept that the USA is THE most litigious country on the planet. As a non-American, it seems to me that there is almost nothing you can't be sued forin the US. And that is why health care costs are out of control in America. Litigation!!
For that reason charter companies need to keep their insurance premiums as low as possible.
I think "no night movement" for charterers is a no brainer, for the multitude of reasons given above.

Also keep in mind that this is not just a USA issue. It is quite common thrughout the Carib.

While running at night is second nature to some, the average bareboater is not very experienced. Running at night safely is a skill acquired thru experience. Even with that experience, night operation does involve more potential risks such as hazards you cant see for example, unlit vessels, etc...

[CaptRory]

Morphing thread here...I had to bite my lip on simpleton comment on health care litigation in the US...but... In my experience, the fish is called a dolphin in the Gulf of Mexico, a dorado in the Atlantic and a Mahi Mahi in the Pacific.

[Polux]

Originally Posted by Scottuk

Maybe so but the point is that the rule as been applied in the Med.

It would have been nice to have the option to sail first to our furthest destination, weather permitting, and work our way back. That said, we were there to not only to sail but see the sites and quench our thrist. By sailing at night it would have been a it contrary to our goals. We did manage to sail around 350nm in 12 days.

Off course, if it was not important to you why mention it?

Off course you can find charter companies that don't allow you to sail at night but the general rule on the med is this:

"THE CHARTERER MUST NEVER:
- Run a commercial passenger transport service with the
vessel.
- Participate in any sporting competitions, unless authorized to
do so.
- Hire out the yacht.
- Tow another craft except in emergency.
- Sail at night except in good visibility and always under good
weather conditions. "

and of course this:

SAILING CONDITIONS: By signing the charter contract the
charterer confirms that he or she displays all the required
knowledge of seamanship and navigation to sail a yacht on the
open sea. Otherwise he must appoint a captain for the vessel,
who should sign the charter contract too.
By signing the charter contract the charterer affirms that he
possesses a sailing certificate and has the required level of
seamanship skills.
The charterer will be held responsible for making any false
declarations. The charterer and vessels captain, in so far as
they are not the same person, are completely subject to the
terms of this contract.
http://www.ayc.hr/site_media/media/c...itions-ENG.pdf

They are pretty much the same. The above quotes are from the AYC contract. AYC is one of the biggest if not the biggest in Croatia

"Adriatic Yacht Charter is a leading charter company with over 70 sailing yachts and catamarans located in 4 bases along the Croatian part of the Adriatic sea. With our bases in Pomer, Murter, Kaštela and Dubrovnik we cover every corner of the most beautiful sailing area in the world."

Yachts | Adriatic Yacht Charter

[zippy]

Sailed a charter cat out of St Martin from Saba to St Croix overnight about 5 years ago. Beautiful night sail and not exactly rocket surgery for experienced sailers. Not mentioning the company just to avoid any hassles for them. Ask the smaller companies, everything is negotiable.

[Saleen411]

Originally Posted by zippy

Sailed a charter cat out of St Martin from Saba to St Croix overnight about 5 years ago. Beautiful night sail and not exactly rocket surgery for experienced sailers. Not mentioning the company just to avoid any hassles for them. Ask the smaller companies, everything is negotiable.

Rocket Surgery??.....now THAT right there is funny.