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Old 17-06-2016, 13:52   #46
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Thot we all knew that ;-0) Back then, and even into my time, those lads were known as "revenooers".

Some splendid Canadian fortunes that today support the arts ever so respectably in this 'ere colony are founded on flaunting the Volstead Act and defying the revenooers. My first boss in this 'ere colony owned a former rum-runner.

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Thot we all knew that ;-0) Back then, and even into my time, those lads were known as "revenooers".

Some splendid Canadian fortunes that today support the arts ever so respectably in this 'ere colony are founded on flaunting the Volstead Act and defying the revenooers. My first boss in this 'ere colony owned a former rum-runner.

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Well, the Kennedy fortune was made by rumrunning from Canada to the US. A lot of the old Boston money was made transporting slaves to the US. Nowadays, a lot of money is made smuggling dope and humans into the US by all sorts of folks. It may not be the oldest profession, but sure is a profitable one.
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Old 17-06-2016, 15:09   #48
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Actually, except for a few states, I think the CG gets these permissions as a routine course of business. I bet Canada hands them out like maple flavored candy.
And vicey versy.

Think North American Security Perimeter agreement. Both countries know immediately who crossed their border. In other words, the moment my passport is scanned into the US, Canada knows I left, as does the US when I return. If you are from Texas and get stopped for speeding in Alberta, the RCMP dials into the NCIS for your criminal background check, as well as checking for the validity of your driver's license and registration. It is done as quickly as if they were checking locally. And vicey versey also. In fact, there are discussions now to allow hot pursuit of a suspect by law enforcement officials into each other's country, the only hang up being jurisdiction if there is a lawsuit.

The two countries are so integrated, economically and culturally, the only difference is Canada has a better health care system, and the US the 2nd amendment.

Cross-border policing provokes sovereignty worries - Canada - CBC News

Note the integrated US/Canada patrols and personal on coast patrol vessels.
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Ah, yes - we'll never see the like of Queenston Heights and Lundy's Lane again. :-)!

As long as our government keeps messing about with its approach to procurement, it's cold comfort that the two new AOR's that are slated to replace HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Provider are to be named Queenston and Chateauguay

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The two countries are so integrated, economically and culturally, the only difference is Canada has a better health care system, and the US the 2nd amendment.
True, in the oilfields Canadians are known as "snap frozen yanks"
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True, in the oilfields Canadians are known as "snap frozen yanks"
Canadian's also say sorry when you step on their foot. Americans will shoot you.
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Canadian's also say sorry when you step on their foot. Americans will shoot you.
That's because you scuffed my boots. Don't be scuffing my boots.
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There is nothing implied about lack of experience in the original post. Overall, if CheapTravel heads Canada-Mexico in international waters, and an unforseen incident means he needs to enter the US, a call to the USCG explaining the situation may result in interception, inspection, and a bunch of paperwork hassles, but they're not going to put him in jail for having a boat failure and needing help in the form of entry to a marina/yard in the US or leave him to drift. He should have his paperwork, including prior notice of entry for Mexico if possible, in order and nothing on board that he does not want Homeland Security to see.
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The OP has exactly one post on CF. Out of curiosity, is there some for not wishing to clear into the US?

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Someone explained this to me once, many years ago. I think I was 9.

Police have guns. That gives them authority. You do what they say. If you want to argue about it, argue later.
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When my oldest was 16, in possession of a newly minted driver's license, he came home one day and reported that "the pigs" at US Customs at the border crossing in Blaine had "hassled" him. "Oh?" sez I. "What had you done?". Came the typical teenage answer: "Nuthin'".

Well, sez I, next time you drive up to ANY border crossing, you put a great big smile on your phiz, and you say "Good Afternoon, Sir! (or Ma'am, as the case may be)". Then you sit still till you are spoken to. Then you answer any questions you are asked. POLITELY!"

Three weeks later: "Guess what, Dad — IT WORKS!!"

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When my oldest was 16, in possession of a newly minted driver's license, he came home one day and reported that "the pigs" at US Customs at the border crossing in Blaine had "hassled" him. "Oh?" sez I. "What had you done?". Came the typical teenage answer: "Nuthin'".

Well, sez I, next time you drive up to ANY border crossing, you put a great big smile on your phiz, and you say "Good Afternoon, Sir! (or Ma'am, as the case may be)". Then you sit still till you are spoken to. Then you answer any questions you are asked. POLITELY!"

Three weeks later: "Guess what, Dad ó IT WORKS!!"

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The two countries are so integrated, economically and culturally, the only difference is Canada has a better health care system,
Just out of curiosity, are there a lot of U.S. citizens going to Canada for healthcare? Reason I ask is my wife works in health care, in admin, and her job is insurance verification. She tells me she calls Canada a lot getting authorizations. (i.e.. "we promise to pay")
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Just out of curiosity, are there a lot of U.S. citizens going to Canada for healthcare? Reason I ask is my wife works in health care, in admin, and her job is insurance verification. She tells me she calls Canada a lot getting authorizations. (i.e.. "we promise to pay")
Its the other way around. Canadians get tired of waiting years for surgery so come to the US to have it done.
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She may be calling Canada to get authorization/verification from Travel Insurance underwriters when Canadians require treatment in the US. The system works both ways. Americans requiring treatment in Canada have their bills paid by their insurance, and our people will call "the States" to verify coverage. If "foreigners" aren't insured, we tend to treat them first, ask questions later. Who knows what amount of bux we never collect for treatment in our Emergency Rooms :-)

Despite the common whinging about wait times I think our health care system - which is actually administered by the provinces individually rather than by "the Feds" - is downright fabulous. Because I'm a geezer I have my ENTIRE insurance premium ("contributions" to the "Beastly" (B.C.) Medical Plan) subsidized 100%. Political refugees, including the many, many from the US we have welcomed over the years, likewise, until they get established as productive members of the economy. Then they must pay the premium, of course. I think the last time I paid medical insurance premiums as a tax-paying geezer, it amounted to fiveandsixty buxamonth. It is simply fabulous what we filthy socialists have wrought in this 'ere colony during my time here.

A different slant: MySaintedFather had bitched and complained all his life about the level of taxation in Denmark. Income taxes are high. VAT is payable on EVERYTHING, including food and other necessaries, at 25% ad valorem. From his hospital bed one of the last things he said to me before he died was "You remember how I used to bitch and complain? Well, now I'm glad the bastards made me pay those taxes!" We can talk some other time about how he came to that conclusion :-)

Taxes are, as someone said, "the price you pay for living in a civilized society"

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